Greetings
Following fun in the mud - last week ...
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The usual method of leaving the vehicle outside for the cleaning faeries
doesn't appear to be working any more.
Flashback 12 months or so ... bought a cheap no-name jet/power wash
thingie @ woollies. Silly thing burnt out after just 2 cleaning sessions.
Back to the present ... blagged an alto unit from that notorious auction
site. This one barely made it through the first clean before self
terminating.
Is there an afordable unit that manages to work as desired? managing its
own heat output would be good. The unit /will/ be abused, then ignored
for weeks on end. I don't want to micro-manage the duty-cycle of cleaning
equipment - just want one that works.
Clues?

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Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
GrnOval - 19 May 2008 09:12 GMT
> Greetings
>
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> Land Rover - 110 V8
> Discovery - V8
I've got two Karcher units at the moment.
Think one of them is the B102M - seems to do pretty similar tasks to
what you've described - i use it, abuse it, then put it away till the
Boss tells me "you'd better clean them again". Can't remember how
i've ended up with two - think one of them is a chums and he's
forgotten to pick it up.
All the no-name units i've had had died after a few uses, the Karcher
seems quite clever - switches the pump off when no water flowing, only
lets detergent through when you've got a "slow" attachment on.
HTH
Si
Richard - 19 May 2008 09:36 GMT
Greetings
Following fun in the mud - last week ...
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/viewPhoto?uname=fiveonadventure&aid=51999365570
18510273&iid=5199937330112623874
The usual method of leaving the vehicle outside for the cleaning faeries
doesn't appear to be working any more.
Flashback 12 months or so ... bought a cheap no-name jet/power wash
thingie @ woollies. Silly thing burnt out after just 2 cleaning sessions.
Back to the present ... blagged an alto unit from that notorious auction
site. This one barely made it through the first clean before self
terminating.
Is there an afordable unit that manages to work as desired? managing its
own heat output would be good. The unit /will/ be abused, then ignored
for weeks on end. I don't want to micro-manage the duty-cycle of cleaning
equipment - just want one that works.
Clues?

Signature
William Tasso
Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
Ive got a Karcher, Ill have a look at the model later. Had it for 8 years
now. Definately been abused but still going strong. Its an upright model
with a built in fan for motor cooling.
Richard
Rick F - 19 May 2008 09:38 GMT
Greetings
Following fun in the mud - last week ...
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/viewPhoto?uname=fiveonadventure&aid=51999365570
18510273&iid=5199937330112623874
The usual method of leaving the vehicle outside for the cleaning faeries
doesn't appear to be working any more.
Flashback 12 months or so ... bought a cheap no-name jet/power wash
thingie @ woollies. Silly thing burnt out after just 2 cleaning sessions.
Back to the present ... blagged an alto unit from that notorious auction
site. This one barely made it through the first clean before self
terminating.
Is there an afordable unit that manages to work as desired? managing its
own heat output would be good. The unit /will/ be abused, then ignored
for weeks on end. I don't want to micro-manage the duty-cycle of cleaning
equipment - just want one that works.
Clues?

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William Tasso
Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
I got an EZ JET 110 from B&Q.
110bar, auto cut off and an extra lance that sends out a spiral jet (brill
for gettin the shite off).
About £60. Take someone over 60 with you on Wednesdays and get 10% off
Much better than the Karcher one I had that kept cracking the pump heads.
Rick
1992 disco 200tdi
www.artfulbodgers.co.uk
Tom Woods - 19 May 2008 09:58 GMT
my £20 cheapo one from focus has lasted 2 years so far!
Perhaps my tap water is thinner or something? ;)
GbH - 19 May 2008 11:40 GMT
> Greetings
>
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>
> Clues?
Think you've just proved the adage 'you gets what you pays for'
Might be worth investing in the local 'Scrotes R Us', pay some lad(s) Or
ladettes, to do it for you, will keep them out of trouble too, maybe?

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Austin Shackles - 19 May 2008 11:47 GMT
>Greetings
>
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>
>Clues?
don' bother with a hot one, more to go wrong.
I've got a big kranzle which I got second-hand from the people who sell new
ones, they'd part-exed it.

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.mother - 19 May 2008 11:53 GMT
>Clues?
I used to have a strategy of putting a garden sprinkler underneith to
soften everything off before power-washing. Similarly I'd use a fine
spray on top for 15 minutes or so. Probably quite eco-unfriendly, but
made the final power-wash a lot quicker.
My neighbours are very happy that I rarely go froading these days :-)
Ian Rawlings - 19 May 2008 12:18 GMT
> I used to have a strategy of putting a garden sprinkler underneith to
> soften everything off before power-washing. Similarly I'd use a fine
> spray on top for 15 minutes or so. Probably quite eco-unfriendly, but
> made the final power-wash a lot quicker.
I've just finished getting about 95% of the mud off the bottom of the
pinz using one of those blunt cross-head screwdrivers specially
engineered not to fit any screws, plus my fingers, and finally the
blast gun attached to my compressor. The mud was all dry so was happy
to come off and the blast gun worked quite well, prodding the big
chunks of mud with the probe without any air tends to make them crack
up and drop off, with the occasional blast of air to keep the probe
clean, then using the air blast to clean out the nooks and crannies.
The advantage of all this is that I now have a driveway covered in dry
mud that's easy to remove with just a broom. Eye protection is
essential when using the blast gun! It's a lot less messy than water,
and means you can get under the truck on a car crawler with the air
gun and clean off the bolt heads and joints using the air, instead of
getting wet and grubby you just get covered in a light coating of
dust. I doubt it would work well on wet mud though.
Now I'll take the pressure washer to it to hose off the small amount
of remaining muck, which won't leave much mess on the driveway.
I've air-blasted so many previously un-cleaned nooks and crannies that
I'll probably go down with some disease that's been dormant in the
swiss mud for so long mankind has evolved away any defence against
it so if a sudden plague sweeps the country, sorry about that chaps.

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GbH - 19 May 2008 12:41 GMT
>> I used to have a strategy of putting a garden sprinkler underneith to
>> soften everything off before power-washing. Similarly I'd use a fine
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> swiss mud for so long mankind has evolved away any defence against
> it so if a sudden plague sweeps the country, sorry about that chaps.
You've probably lightened it so much as to make it unhandlable!

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Ian Rawlings - 19 May 2008 14:09 GMT
> You've probably lightened it so much as to make it unhandlable!
It's developed a landy-style slow oil leak, strange how on the landy,
oil leaks just get ignored and I top up the oils without concern, but
on the pinz any oil leak gets taken seriously! I think it's because
it's not British, therefore oil leaks are a sign of something wrong
rather than just in-built rust-proofing. The landy's got three oil
leaks, I don't know where from as I've never looked, the pinz has one
and I've been over it with a fine-toothed comb.

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SteveG - 19 May 2008 20:08 GMT
>> You've probably lightened it so much as to make it unhandlable!
>
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> leaks, I don't know where from as I've never looked, the pinz has one
> and I've been over it with a fine-toothed comb.
You want to borrow my missus for a day (honest, you do!). You'd be under
that Landie hunting down those leaks faster than a goafer down a hole ~
and you'd willingly stay there until they were fixed :-)

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Ian Rawlings - 19 May 2008 20:51 GMT
> You want to borrow my missus for a day (honest, you do!). You'd be under
> that Landie hunting down those leaks faster than a goafer down a hole ~
> and you'd willingly stay there until they were fixed :-)
Maybe get a bivvy bag and camp under the truck on the pretext of
trying to catch the leaks at night being as they're mostly nocturnal!

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.mother - 20 May 2008 09:32 GMT
>Maybe get a bivvy bag and camp under the truck on the pretext of
>trying to catch the leaks at night being as they're mostly nocturnal!
Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows oil leaks are closely
related (via the butterfly effect) to far more pressing issues and
lack of circular tuits.
Austin Shackles - 20 May 2008 09:51 GMT
>>Maybe get a bivvy bag and camp under the truck on the pretext of
>>trying to catch the leaks at night being as they're mostly nocturnal!
>
>Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows oil leaks are closely
>related (via the butterfly effect) to far more pressing issues and
>lack of circular tuits.
I'm going to have to fix the one on the bus, not 'cos it loses any
significant amount of oil but 'cos the taxi-test bloke will fail it in the
autumn. Plenty of time yet though :-)

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EMB - 20 May 2008 11:17 GMT
> I'm going to have to fix the one on the bus, not 'cos it loses any
> significant amount of oil but 'cos the taxi-test bloke will fail it in the
> autumn. Plenty of time yet though :-)
No time at all. It's definitely autumn at the moment (longditude not
withstanding of course). ;-)
Lee_D - 19 May 2008 13:41 GMT
> I've air-blasted so many previously un-cleaned nooks and crannies that
> I'll probably go down with some disease that's been dormant in the
> swiss mud for so long mankind has evolved away any defence against
> it so if a sudden plague sweeps the country, sorry about that chaps.
That explains it... swiss man flu is what I have. I'll have to roll my
tissues to combat this one.
Ian Rawlings - 19 May 2008 14:05 GMT
> That explains it... swiss man flu is what I have. I'll have to roll my
> tissues to combat this one.
I don't fancy scooping up the filling and licking it off..

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Lee_D - 19 May 2008 21:30 GMT
>> That explains it... swiss man flu is what I have. I'll have to roll my
>> tissues to combat this one.
>
> I don't fancy scooping up the filling and licking it off..
Eweeee!
I think I'm going to gag...... no .. no ... I'm definately going to gag!
Lee D
.mother - 20 May 2008 18:33 GMT
>I think I'm going to gag...... no .. no ... I'm definately going to gag!
Having had a depressingly semantic afternoon I feel obliged to point
out that to 'gag' is an autonomic response regurgitative spasm to
something being stuck or inserted into the throat. I believe you
actually mean 'retch'.
(Caveat: 'gag' may lead to retching)
Oh, hope you get well soon etc... :-)
Ian Rawlings - 20 May 2008 18:39 GMT
> Having had a depressingly semantic afternoon I feel obliged to point
> out that to 'gag' is an autonomic response regurgitative spasm to
> something being stuck or inserted into the throat. I believe you
> actually mean 'retch'.
I think he meant he was going to tell a joke, however I have heard a
fair few gags that led to retching, and even some strangulation and
beatings.

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Long tall ugly - 20 May 2008 20:31 GMT
>> That explains it... swiss man flu is what I have. I'll have to roll my
>> tissues to combat this one.
>
>I don't fancy scooping up the filling and licking it off..
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Derek - 19 May 2008 18:52 GMT
Greetings
Following fun in the mud - last week ...
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/viewPhoto?uname=fiveonadventure&aid=51999365570
18510273&iid=5199937330112623874
The usual method of leaving the vehicle outside for the cleaning faeries
doesn't appear to be working any more.
Flashback 12 months or so ... bought a cheap no-name jet/power wash
thingie @ woollies. Silly thing burnt out after just 2 cleaning sessions.
Back to the present ... blagged an alto unit from that notorious auction
site. This one barely made it through the first clean before self
terminating.
Is there an afordable unit that manages to work as desired? managing its
own heat output would be good. The unit /will/ be abused, then ignored
for weeks on end. I don't want to micro-manage the duty-cycle of cleaning
equipment - just want one that works.
Clues?

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Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
I'm with the herd Karcher 297 3 years old and the new ones are better
with a built in soap dispenser - I kick mine over regularly but slightly
lower flow and pressure
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=K297
Derek
Dave Liquorice - 19 May 2008 22:15 GMT
> I'm with the herd Karcher 297 3 years old and the new ones are better
> with a built in soap dispenser - I kick mine over regularly but slightly
> lower flow and pressure
I have a K299[*], detergent bottle sits behind the handle. It always
struck me that a stand alone detergent bottle would just ask for being
kicked over and/or make moving the machine a PITA.
I reckon mine is about 3 or 4 years old but it's probably only been used 2
or 3 times. The rain does a good enough job most of the time, though it
doesn't shift the algae.
[*] I think, just been to check the model but I can't actually find it
ATM. SWMBO'd has "tidied" the room it was last seen in... K299 on the
karcher website doesn't match what I have but I guess "fashion" has
insisted a redesign of the plastic covers.

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William Tasso - 20 May 2008 09:04 GMT
> ...
> unit /will/ be abused, then ignored for weeks on end. I don't want to
> micro-manage the duty-cycle of cleaning equipment ...
Thanks chaps.
Looks like Karcher gets the popular vote in the reliability stakes.
Kranzle looks interesting and appeals to the latent engineer lurking
within.
Like the pre-soak plan - got me thinking.
Again ... many thanks.

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