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Land Rover Defender Heat problem

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mike - 26 May 2008 16:14 GMT
hi

My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
gearbox
floor/transmission area. It really gets boiling. Does that mean i have
to change
the transmission fluid? There are no obvious leaks underneath the car,
and
overwise it drives ok. But driven for any amount of time and above
50mph, the
heat really starts to rise.

Anyone experience similar problems?

cheers

Mike
Nige - 26 May 2008 16:17 GMT
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> Mike

I would think evryone that ever bought one will reply yes, they all get hot
round that area. Well, every one i have had do.

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Mark Solesbury - 26 May 2008 16:27 GMT
>> hi
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> I would think evryone that ever bought one will reply yes, they all get hot
> round that area. Well, every one i have had do.

Mine gets hot, but never hot enough that i cant touch it.

When was the oil last changed?

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andrew - 26 May 2008 16:36 GMT
> Mine gets hot, but never hot enough that i cant touch it.

Ditto. I sometimes forget the parking brake light is not functioning
though...

AJH
puffernutter - 26 May 2008 17:53 GMT
>> hi
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> I would think evryone that ever bought one will reply yes, they all get hot
> round that area. Well, every one i have had do.

Even hotter when towing!

Cheers

Peter

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William Tasso - 26 May 2008 19:21 GMT
>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...
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> I would think evryone that ever bought one will reply yes, they all get  
> hot round that area. Well, every one i have had do.

yes, agreed - "They all do that sir"

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Brian Colwell - 27 May 2008 02:49 GMT
>>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
>>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...
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> yes, agreed - "They all do that sir"

Just curious, why would that be so ?

bmc
Mark Solesbury - 27 May 2008 08:09 GMT
>>>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
>>>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...
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>
> bmc

Mainly because the box is very close to the seat box, and being a
defender there is no 'trim' there :)

So when the box gets hot, so does the car!

I like to think of it as an extra heater for the winter - Its a good
place to store gloves ;)

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Geo - 27 May 2008 16:59 GMT
"Mark Solesbury" <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com>
wrote
>>> Nige <nigel.inceFECKINJESUS@btinternet.com> wrote:

>>>>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
>>>>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone experience similar problems?

>>>> I would think evryone that ever bought one will reply yes, they all get
>>>> hot round that area. Well, every one i have had do.

>>> yes, agreed - "They all do that sir"

>> Just curious, why would that be so ?
>
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> I like to think of it as an extra heater for the winter - Its a good place
> to store gloves ;)

It's not so much fun in a Cretan summer tho.... Good thing my 90 doesn't get
boiling hot, just a tad unpleasant.

Geo
mike - 28 May 2008 16:33 GMT
> "Mark Solesbury" <marksolesb...@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com>
> wrote
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> >>> Nige <nigel.inceFECKINJE...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
> >>>>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...

thanks for all your comments. i think i will check the fluid levels
and give it an oil change.

mike
Oily - 27 May 2008 10:20 GMT
> >>> My 1990 110 Defender has just started giving off heat from around the
> >>> gearbox floor/transmission area ...
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> bmc

There's a lot of friction in the gearbox, some of it actually designed in,
(synchros for example), which can be increased by insufficient or incorrect
grade of oil, and all the heat from the engine compartment ( rad, engine and
exhaust/turbo etc.) flows past that area as well.

Martin
Allen - 26 May 2008 16:37 GMT
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> Mike

Exhaust heat soak is very common - and is really noticeable starting from
mid-spring. Is your seat box getting hot?
Derek - 26 May 2008 19:21 GMT
> hi
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> Mike

I used the exhaust wrap on the manifold (Kato) to reduce the under bonnet
temperature
no reason why the other kit shouldn't help with the  110
http://shop.agriemach.co.uk/default.php?cPath=0_7_80

Derek
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Pantelis Giamarellos - 27 May 2008 14:00 GMT
People Hi,

we get the same kind of problem here in Greece also, especially on Defenders
fitted with the V8 engines (3.5 up to 4.6)

The solution we have found is the following.

1.  Exhaust wrap on the exhaust manifolds up to and including all the
exhaust system up to the middle box.
2.  Heat reflective material attached on the outside area of the gearbox
tunnet and seat box area (a very good material is the "barrier mat" from
Noisekiller, mind you I do have an interest since I am their Greek
representative and distributor.  Cheaper heat reflective materials can also
be sourced from hardware outlets such as Macro  or stores specialised on
insulation materials.
3.  Aluminium foil glued on the inside area of the seatbox.  A VERY CHEAP
and easy thing to do.  Just use the ordinary kitchen aluminium foil and
spray glue.
4.  Open three or four holes left and right of bonnet close to the area
where the hinges are but on its sides.  This way the heat from the exhaust
manifolds will find this way to escape and will not travel through the
gearbox tunnel.
5.  Fit a 74 degrees thermostat on the engine.

Hope this helps

Take care
Pantelis

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> Disco 300Tdi Miles
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Mike Romain - 27 May 2008 14:51 GMT
You are describing a 'new' issue, now the same old hot tranny tunnel
most 4x4's have from my understanding of this post.

I would be checking the fluid level in the tranny and t-case right away,
if it's low enough in either to cause overheating, it will cause a failure.

If you think it's time for a fluid change, then you should do so, but
you should still check the fluid level first.  This will let you know if
you have a leak someplace that may need to be addressed.

Lots of leaks are so slow that using a liter of fluid a year is not hard
to take vs a complete tear down to fix it.  Cost wise anyway.

Some leaks are easy to fix.

Mike
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