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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / August 2008

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hotwire over-run cut-off

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Austin Shackles - 24 Aug 2008 10:28 GMT
Anyone know if there's a signal I can pick up from the hotwire system to
know when it's doing over-run fuel cut-off, or is it all done internally on
the hotwire?

I have in mind to crosslink to the LPG.  

I could adapt the rev-sensitive relay from a k-jet, but that requires adding
a throttle-closed switch to the engine and would be more hassle.

Also, the LPG is closed loop.  will it get confused, if the fuel gets cut
off?

I imagine that it will think that it's gone terminally lean, and try to
richen the mixture, to whatever extent it's able to.  This of course will
mean that it goes rich when the fuel comes back in and thus will probably
negate any saving made by cutting off the fuel in the first place...
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Badger - 25 Aug 2008 15:47 GMT
> Anyone know if there's a signal I can pick up from the hotwire system to
> know when it's doing over-run fuel cut-off, or is it all done internally
> on
> the hotwire?

All internal I'm afraid mate, within the ecu's programming.

> I have in mind to crosslink to the LPG.
>
> I could adapt the rev-sensitive relay from a k-jet, but that requires
> adding
> a throttle-closed switch to the engine and would be more hassle.

What about the vacuum controlled over-run cut-off valve from a 3.5 efi
(flapper) system, wired straight to the gas solenoid feeds?

> Also, the LPG is closed loop.  will it get confused, if the fuel gets cut
> off?

Not if it is cut off by closing the solenoids.

> I imagine that it will think that it's gone terminally lean, and try to
> richen the mixture, to whatever extent it's able to.  This of course will
> mean that it goes rich when the fuel comes back in and thus will probably
> negate any saving made by cutting off the fuel in the first place...

Quite possibly. Try it and see over a decent length of time to see if it
works or not?
Badger.
Austin Shackles - 25 Aug 2008 21:51 GMT
>> Anyone know if there's a signal I can pick up from the hotwire system to
>> know when it's doing over-run fuel cut-off, or is it all done internally
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>works or not?
>Badger.

I'll see.  'ere, you haven't got a 38mm mixer to fit a 3.9 manifold, have
you?

is it possible to fit the valve from the flapper to the hotwire plenum?  I
might have one of those in the spare parts department, depending on which
manifold/plenum set it is I have there.
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Badger - 26 Aug 2008 14:34 GMT
>>> Anyone know if there's a signal I can pick up from the hotwire system to
>>> know when it's doing over-run fuel cut-off, or is it all done internally
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> I'll see.  'ere, you haven't got a 38mm mixer to fit a 3.9 manifold, have
> you?

Sorry mate, nope. I just order them in as I need them when doing
conversions.

> is it possible to fit the valve from the flapper to the hotwire plenum?  I
> might have one of those in the spare parts department, depending on which
> manifold/plenum set it is I have there.

Yep, connect via a "T" piece to the vacuum pipe at the rear that feeds the
fuel pressure regulator.

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Austin Shackles - 26 Aug 2008 15:01 GMT
>Yep, connect via a "T" piece to the vacuum pipe at the rear that feeds the
>fuel pressure regulator.

I'll have to see if I've got one.
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