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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / October 2004disco engine in 101 ambi
Decisions, decisions. Should I keep the 101 LT95 gear box or use the gearbox off the disco on the 101 transfer box. The donor vehicle is a 1991 Disco, will that be an LT85 or an LT77 box Steve >Should I keep the 101 LT95 gear box or use the gearbox off the disco on >the 101 transfer box. Does the plasma cutter work on aluminium? AJH > Does the plasma cutter work on aluminium? Yup. Access will not be a problem :-) Steve > Decisions, decisions. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve Bung in the one attached to it then get the ratios sorted. Seems logical. You will also have a spare box then for the GS. Lee D > Bung in the one attached to it then get the ratios sorted. But is it really strong enough - the 101 box is pretty tough, but not as nice to change gear with. Steve >> Bung in the one attached to it then get the ratios sorted. > > But is it really strong enough - the 101 box is pretty tough, but not as > nice to change gear with. > > Steve Well when its broken bung an auto in.. cutting to fit to the 101 box (shortened input shaft) may knacker it anyway if not lined up right IYSWIM. Lee D > Well when its broken bung an auto in.. cutting to fit to the 101 box > (shortened input shaft) may knacker it anyway if not lined up right IYSWIM. You've seen the workshop. Do you seriously think it'll be a problem..... I know you and Martyn rave about autoboxes, but I don't like them at all. Steve >> Well when its broken bung an auto in.. cutting to fit to the 101 box >> (shortened input shaft) may knacker it anyway if not lined up right [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Steve In your workshop I'm sure anything is possible.... infact I'd go as far to say anything is possible. But is it worth all the effort? Zeus already knock out a conversion. Is it going to work out cheaper DIY for a one off, if so then go for it..after all whats the worst that can happen! Any progress on those brake fluid reserviours? I've deveolped a leak.. suspect its the rubber feeder hose but also can guess what will happen when I pull it off too. Lee D > In your workshop I'm sure anything is possible.... infact I'd go as far to > say anything is possible. But is it worth all the effort? Zeus already knock > out a conversion. Is it going to work out cheaper DIY for a one off, The Zeus bits are over 350 quid for a start. Thats a reasonable amount of my time. And besides, when did economics come into it ? > Any progress on those brake fluid reserviours? I've deveolped a leak.. > suspect its the rubber feeder hose but also can guess what will happen when > I pull it off too. Since I am getting pretty close to getting the ambi (Wendy...) to run, the reservoirs are on the top of my list. I may even try and have a go at one next week. Steve > Since I am getting pretty close to getting the ambi (Wendy...) to run, > the reservoirs are on the top of my list. I may even try and have a go > at one next week. > > Steve Jon (yellow elephant 101) has got a 3 pot resevoir from a merc 4x4 truck in his 101 and it works well - waiting for reply from parts dealer on price of these to see if its a good idea Rich > Jon (yellow elephant 101) has got a 3 pot resevoir from a merc 4x4 truck in > his 101 and it works well - waiting for reply from parts dealer on price of > these to see if its a good idea but will they have black and orange stripes ? >> Since I am getting pretty close to getting the ambi (Wendy...) to run, >> the reservoirs are on the top of my list. I may even try and have a go [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Rich Rich ... please keep me posted on this.... It's looking V.desperate at the mo and with the Rangie off the road the 101 may be being used more than normal. Lee D >Rich ... please keep me posted on this.... It's looking V.desperate at the >mo and with the Rangie off the road the 101 may be being used more than >normal. I've been looking at other options too. Essentially there's a lot of choice. Many are better sized to fit en-situ and have more than adequate capacity. If you're desperate for the originals I have a few kicking around somewhere, though.  SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >I know you and Martyn rave about autoboxes, but I don't like them at all. They're just lazy! :) >>I know you and Martyn rave about autoboxes, but I don't like them at all. > > They're just lazy! :) My excuse was a dickie knee.. but in the 101 The auto makes sound logic.. less wear on the drive take up means your not going to be picking up transfer gears at inopportune moments. Also frees hands up for other panic prompted driver manouvers ;-) Percy has also survived well given he's got a 4.2 in.. wonder how long a manual box would have gone before popping something on the drive train. Not that I'd wish to tempt fait you understand. Lee D >My excuse was a dickie knee.. but in the 101 The auto makes sound logic.. >less wear on the drive take up means your not going to be picking up >transfer gears at inopportune moments. Also frees hands up for other panic >prompted driver manouvers ;-) or should that be other-panicked-driver-prompted manoeuvres? >>I know you and Martyn rave about autoboxes, but I don't like them at all. > >They're just lazy! :) actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd recommend it to anyone. >actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd recommend it to >anyone. Ive actually never driven any automatic car. A lot of people have said theyre nice though. My mate said he'd let me have a go in his (car) when its back on the road. I can really see the appeal of having one in a 101 as changing gear a fair bit (as you have to) is pretty hard work! >I can really see the appeal of having one in a 101 as changing gear a >fair bit (as you have to) is pretty hard work! I only wish I'd done it a lot sooner. SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd recommend it to >anyone. I lost count of how many times I said exactly the same over the last 4 days... SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >>actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd recommend it to >>anyone. > >I lost count of how many times I said exactly the same over the last 4 >days... I'm rather tempted for the current disco in fact, just that I wonder if it might hurt the economy, such as it is. Also I may yet do a deal for a decent LT77, rebuilt about 40K miles ago. >>>actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd recommend it to >>>anyone. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >might hurt the economy, such as it is. Also I may yet do a deal for a >decent LT77, rebuilt about 40K miles ago. You lot are all making me think about it and ive never even driven one yet! Stop it! >I'm rather tempted for the current disco in fact Nooooooo..... Do it in a 101, Austin ;-) SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >>I'm rather tempted for the current disco in fact > >Nooooooo..... > >Do it in a 101, Austin ;-) "real men do it in a 101"? I'd love to, but at the moment, I've got to survive the next 3 months or so without going down the tubes. and even then, there's not gonna be the sort of pennies I'd need for 101-games, much though I like the idea of a 101 minibus. > "real men do it in a 101"? So do real women..... So I have been told. Steve >> "real men do it in a 101"? >> >So do real women..... > >So I have been told. My dog wouldn't been seen in anything else. Well, apart from one of our Discos, actually _any_ Disco (Max _really_ likes Discos!) SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >> "real men do it in a 101"? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Steve Yep, but you need a skinny girlfriend to be comfy on the ambulance stretchers... Daniel www.strangerover.net > > actually, the ZF is a wonderful thing in a land rover. I'd > > recommend it to anyone. > > I lost count of how many times I said exactly the same over the last 4 > days... You said it to me about 42 times! Nice to meet you by the way - (I was the beardy with the fierce wife!). SignatureSimes. >> I lost count of how many times I said exactly the same over the last 4 >> days... > >You said it to me about 42 times! I'm getting predictable! >Nice to meet you by the way - (I was the beardy with the fierce wife!). Yep, another quite fine woman she was too. I must remember to take you two shopping with me next time I go hunting for bits, by the way! Thinking about it, I met more a.f.l'ers during this show than almost any other. Tis always nice to put a face to a 'name' - even a couple of 'lurkers' came to say hello, which was very nice actually (stop lurking) as they were nice to talk to, very human, albeit totally failling to offer me a beer... Show Season this year has been 'mixed' for us, what with Grumble not liking my indecision and prompting me to go auto. The best for us were the Marque Day/LRM Show, Driffield (TOP SHOW) and Peterborough. Billing was totally soul-less, Stoneleigh I had bad hayfever and was shagged out before going, and Eastnor (apart from meeting some new faces and old) was a cock-up (as usual) in layout and not too good weather. The ARC National was alright actually, come to think about it, bad weather, but that goes hand-in-hand with 'The National'! Odd as it seems, and frustrated as I get answering the same 'How many miles does it do to the gallon?' and 'why it it purple?' and 'where did you get the wheels?' questions, the best part of any show (for me) is actually meeting new people and meeting up with old 'already known' people. The Landies are fine and interesting, but it's the people you meet that make a good show. SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info > >> I lost count of how many times I said exactly the same over the > last 4 >> days... > > > > You said it to me about 42 times! > > I'm getting predictable! Which is nice... in an ever changing world... > > Nice to meet you by the way - (I was the beardy with the fierce > > wife!). > > Yep, another quite fine woman she was too. I must remember to take > you two shopping with me next time I go hunting for bits, by the way! I reckon we did OK in the end. Brand new Bearmach dog guard for the RRC 20 quid, full set of front seats and frames for the SIII 8 quid, Pair of RRC electric/heated mirrors for 10 quid and a set of ABS relays (3 off) for 2 quid. Burger and a bottle of water for a fiver wasn't so much of a bargain though :-( > Show Season this year has been 'mixed' for us, what with Grumble not > liking my indecision and prompting me to go auto. The best for us > were the Marque Day/LRM Show, Driffield (TOP SHOW) and Peterborough. > Billing was totally soul-less, I stopped going to Billing in 98 - 97 was OK but I thought 98 was dull and haven't been back. Shame really as it's only 15 miles from here. I thought Peterborough was good - nice mix of bits and bobs and the weather was about right. > The Landies are fine and interesting, but it's the people you > meet that make a good show. Definitely. >Burger and a bottle of water for a fiver wasn't so much of a bargain >though :-( I really get pissed off with this. OK, I know they all make a cut from the bloke in the burger van to the wholesaler, including the organisers, but nonetheless it goes against the grain to pay extortionate money for an indifferent small burger which I know I could get for about 59p in the supermarket, in a box of 10 or something. There's a bloke has a burger van in the supermarket car park in Lampeter, he sells nice proper-sized 1/4-lb burgers, and for less than you pay at most "events", and he has to pay site rent too. Either the blokes in the vans are taking the piss or the organisers are, or more likely both. The organisers could well do with looking at how much they charge caterers, you only have to look at the queues for extortionate burgers at big events to realise that it's a relevant part of the attraction. Ditto the van-men, if they charged less they'd probably sell and make more. >Odd as it seems, and frustrated as I get answering the same 'How many >miles does it do to the gallon?' and 'why it it purple?' and 'where >did you get the wheels?' questions You could always put the answers to the really obvious stuff on a notice and hang it on the front somewhere. 'ere, speaking of how many miles to the gallon... you got any befopre-and-after figures for the auto conversion yet? I've never actually done a direct comparison on the same vehicle, and would be interested to know if you've gained, lost or neither on the MPG front. >You could always put the answers to the really obvious stuff on a notice and >hang it on the front somewhere. It's there - on two big signs in the windows - an colour pics an all... Do the beggars read them...? >'ere, speaking of how many miles to the gallon... > >you got any befopre-and-after figures for the auto conversion yet? Shell Island (Norf Wales) - av 13.7mpg - lots of little roads Stoneleigh and back - av 14.5mpg - mixed roads Peterborough and back - av 15.8mpg - mainly A1 I'm kin amazed! >I've never actually done a direct comparison on the same vehicle, and would >be interested to know if you've gained, lost or neither on the MPG front. Gained by around 1.5mpg The real gain came when I put the 4.6 in. Not working it too hard y'see. SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info >>'ere, speaking of how many miles to the gallon... >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I'm kin amazed! boodly hell, so am I. I only get about 13 from the disco. what gas system are you running? mine's a fairly basic open loop, could be it'd benefit from going closed loop. mind, probably would. She does about 17-18 or a bit more on a run, on petrol. >boodly hell, so am I. I only get about 13 from the disco. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mind, probably would. She does about 17-18 or a bit more on a run, on >petrol. Last longish steady run I did in the Rangie (Leeds to Glasgow) it bettered 22 mpg on Stromberg carbs. Nick > >boodly hell, so am I. I only get about 13 from the disco. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nick Our 3.9 ES Disco pulling 1300kg's of caravan was averaging 18 to 20 mpg in france on the Autoroutes. This is with a Bigas LPG system fitted so I'm sure any one who works out the maths can recock it's easily equivelent toaround 40 mpg's on petrol prices and all the burble to. Oh and it's also auto. Lee D > I'm kin amazed! Just to recap some old ground as I was on Holiday and google won't find it .... The ratios you used in grumbles transfer box.. are these the 1.192 as per the spreadsheet? and if so are they standard in the ZF box or did yer have ter gerrum somewhere special? Cos's I'm running out of things to do and have to much money... I wish. :-) Lee D >You've seen the workshop. Do you seriously think it'll be a problem..... > >I know you and Martyn rave about autoboxes, but I don't like them at all. My left leg hates them. Thinks it's been made redundant... SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info > My left leg hates them. Thinks it's been made redundant... You still got that series III? Lee D >> My left leg hates them. Thinks it's been made redundant... > >You still got that series III? Oh yes - I'm thinking of selling it, but may have to keep it as therapy for my left leg... ;-) SignatureSome Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/ I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net Reading this in 'alt.fan.landrover'? Did you know there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info |
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