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Larry - 02 Oct 2004 14:07 GMT
Oh for at least a car port to work under :(

as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

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Paul Everett - 02 Oct 2004 14:17 GMT
> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>
> as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
> entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
> with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

My thoughts exactly. The 110 has transfer box issues at the moment and
the weather (actually just strong wind here so far, no rain yet) isn't
helping.

Paul

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Mr.Nice. - 02 Oct 2004 17:19 GMT
Twas Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:17:07 +0100 when Paul Everett
<usenet@spam.repton.org> put finger to keyboard producing:

>> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Paul

It's a full 15 minute walk (5 for most people but I have a limp) to
where my land rover is parked, I then work on it at the roadside, open
to the elements and no protection from weather coming in off the sea.
it's only regular english tea breaks that keep me sane.
and I still can't get that damn brake drum off...

Regards.
Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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Austin Shackles - 03 Oct 2004 10:02 GMT
>Twas Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:17:07 +0100 when Paul Everett
><usenet@spam.repton.org> put finger to keyboard producing:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>it's only regular english tea breaks that keep me sane.
>and I still can't get that damn brake drum off...

if it really won't shift, then cut the fecker off and fit a new one, they're
cheap enough (or used to be, anyway).  small anlgegrinder through the drum,
carefully, don't damage the mounting surfaces, until you've cut as much of
it as you can, and then smite it with a big hammer.

seriously... :-)  's not worth pissing around with it if it's really solid
on there.
Mr.Nice. - 03 Oct 2004 11:03 GMT
Twas Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:02:53 +0100 when Austin Shackles
<austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> put finger to keyboard producing:

>>Twas Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:17:07 +0100 when Paul Everett
>><usenet@spam.repton.org> put finger to keyboard producing:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>seriously... :-)  's not worth pissing around with it if it's really solid
>on there.

No grinder to hand.
I'm going to try a bolt through the threaded hole thing, if that
doesn't work I'll order a new pair of drums and hit the old one with a
chisel, I expect that'll crack it and get it off.

Regards.
Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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Austin Shackles - 03 Oct 2004 12:29 GMT
>No grinder to hand.
>I'm going to try a bolt through the threaded hole thing, if that
>doesn't work I'll order a new pair of drums and hit the old one with a
>chisel, I expect that'll crack it and get it off.

<dubious> it might.  although it's cast, it's a big lump to break with a
chisel without weakening it first.
Mr.Nice. - 03 Oct 2004 19:51 GMT
Twas Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:29:54 +0100 when Austin Shackles
<austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> put finger to keyboard producing:

>>No grinder to hand.
>>I'm going to try a bolt through the threaded hole thing, if that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
><dubious> it might.  although it's cast, it's a big lump to break with a
>chisel without weakening it first.

mutter mutter, bloody thing.....

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EMB - 03 Oct 2004 20:24 GMT
> <dubious> it might.  although it's cast, it's a big lump to break with a
> chisel without weakening it first.

Yep, you'll be pushing the brown stuff uphill with a pointy stick trying
to break a Landy brake drum even with a sledge hammer - more than likely
you'll damage something else in the process.  Carefully applied heat
(with a gas set) is the answer.

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Austin Shackles - 03 Oct 2004 21:25 GMT
>> <dubious> it might.  although it's cast, it's a big lump to break with a
>> chisel without weakening it first.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>you'll damage something else in the process.  Carefully applied heat
>(with a gas set) is the answer.

I'd reckon to be able to combine cutting and breaking though, as is
sometimes done with stuck and buggered brake discs.
Paul - xxx - 02 Oct 2004 16:44 GMT
Larry vaguely muttered something like ...
> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>
> as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
> entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am
> dealing with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

Mate uses one of those cheap 'Gazebo' things from DIY shops.  He has a
double size one that'll easily fit completely over a 110 ... and it has
sides to stop the blown rain blinding you totally.  He attaches it to the
rear end of the Landy, and pegs out the other three sides.  Works well, but
not for anything above a 20 mph wind, I'd guess .. ;)

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T i m - 02 Oct 2004 19:21 GMT
>Larry vaguely muttered something like ...
>> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>rear end of the Landy, and pegs out the other three sides.  Works well, but
>not for anything above a 20 mph wind, I'd guess .. ;)

A mate bought / did similar for working on stuff outside in the sun ..
seems a bitt ott for just two days each year but he took the 109 to
bits under it in the rain ..

All the best ..

T i m
Nige - 02 Oct 2004 17:01 GMT
> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>
> as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
> entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
> with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

Aye it's bollocks, I need to do all manner of jobs on Monty the Maroon monster (as next doors call it!)

Still, got Monday off to do a few things!

Nige
Mother - 02 Oct 2004 18:59 GMT
>as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
>entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
>with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

Been bright sunshine here all day, a little windy, but not cold.  Have
I done the shedloads of little jobs that I'd planned for the next nice
day off?

Have I buggery...  Spent most of the day in a darkened room for a
local Magic Circle informal meet.  Sad.

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T i m - 02 Oct 2004 19:34 GMT
>>as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
>>entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I done the shedloads of little jobs that I'd planned for the next nice
>day off?

I was replacing the broken coil spring today on my 'would be Landy'
(Rickman Ranger kit car) and I could hear the rain beating down on the
roof of my mates heated and fully equipped garage <smug grin>. I
didn't hear it at first as I was raising the car on the two poster
lift .. <smugger grin> .. ;-)

Those Snap-On tools are nice and the air driver was handy for the
wheel nuts ...  need to MIG some bits up on Monday (I'll have to walk
into the other bay for that) ..  might pop round the corner to Gregs
for lunch . or 50 yards the other way to McThingies .. <sigh>.

Mind you .. I have spent a lot of my life laying on the wet road
fixing stuff so it's ok .. ;-)

I hope it stays dry for tomorrow (I've brought some bits home to work
on in my workshop) and I'll get wet going between the house and
workshop .. ;-(

All the best ..

Toogood Toobytrue ;-)
Mother - 02 Oct 2004 20:29 GMT
>roof of my mates heated and fully equipped garage <smug grin>. I
>didn't hear it at first as I was raising the car on the two poster
>lift .. <smugger grin> .. ;-)

I've all that and a whole lot more within 50 yards from here - plus an
experienced Landie loving engineer who does all the actual work.

So, I'll match your grins full on and raise you a nice clean pair of
hands!

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T i m - 02 Oct 2004 22:12 GMT
>>roof of my mates heated and fully equipped garage <smug grin>. I
>>didn't hear it at first as I was raising the car on the two poster
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So, I'll match your grins full on and raise you a nice clean pair of
>hands!

Hmmm .. <thinks .. the latex gloves *do* tear time to time ...>

Ah, but, well ..

1) Where's the fun in letting someone else fettle yer pride-n-joy ..?

2) Does he  / she do it for nothing .?

3) Can you trust that they will put in 110% ..?

While I was working on the 'Rangy' (see, it's even taking on LR
attributes .<g>.) my garage owning mate was checking out the rear
brakes for a customer and her 106 (or summat). She had been told that
she needs new brake shoes on the rear but on inspection it was obvious
it needed more work than that and infact in the 40k miles showing on
the clock, the rear drums had never been off?

He asked a local main dealer what was actually done on a typical
'service' and was told 'oil and filter' (for the 90 quid ..) ;-(

I'll do my own thanks and that *may* be why my Sierra is still running
(daily) after 21 years ... and the base vehicle for the Ranger after
26 years .. (see, it's not just Landy's that can live to a ripe old
age .. <g>)

All the best ..

T i m
EMB - 02 Oct 2004 22:49 GMT
>>>roof of my mates heated and fully equipped garage <smug grin>. I
>>>didn't hear it at first as I was raising the car on the two poster
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> 1) Where's the fun in letting someone else fettle yer pride-n-joy ..?

I can still fettle the bits I want to fettle.

> 2) Does he  / she do it for nothing .?

Yep.

> 3) Can you trust that they will put in 110% ..?

If they still want a job come Monday morning, yes they will (see my
other post).

> While I was working on the 'Rangy' (see, it's even taking on LR
> attributes .<g>.) my garage owning mate was checking out the rear
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> He asked a local main dealer what was actually done on a typical
> 'service' and was told 'oil and filter' (for the 90 quid ..) ;-(

That's why I lasted 6 months the one time I worked for a main dealer -
the hyposcrisy and rip-offs made me sick.

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EMB - 02 Oct 2004 22:46 GMT
>>roof of my mates heated and fully equipped garage <smug grin>. I
>>didn't hear it at first as I was raising the car on the two poster
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So, I'll match your grins full on and raise you a nice clean pair of
> hands!

I own part of the garage I work at and can get the lads in the workshop
to do all the tedious and dirty stuff and write off most of my parts to
"workshop repairs".

I'll raise you one healthy wallet.  8-)

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Mother - 02 Oct 2004 20:29 GMT
>Oh for at least a car port to work under :(

You should have got a 101.  All engine work can be done in the dry ;-)

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T i m - 02 Oct 2004 22:00 GMT
>Martyn

Brilliant .. ;-)

Are you listening to the new series Martyn ? (you can download a movie
of the new stuff being made and other stuff from ..)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/newseries.shtml

All the best ..

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Mother - 04 Oct 2004 13:07 GMT
>Are you listening to the new series Martyn ?

Oh yes...  Recorded & MP3d for the car :-)
Neil - 10 Oct 2004 01:28 GMT
>>Are you listening to the new series Martyn ?
>
>Oh yes...  Recorded & MP3d for the car :-)

And me, but I missed the first one :o(

Neil

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Alex - 10 Oct 2004 11:23 GMT
>>>Are you listening to the new series Martyn ?
>>
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>
>Neil

Balls, I'd forgotten it had started.

Alex
Austin Shackles - 03 Oct 2004 09:59 GMT
>Oh for at least a car port to work under :(

get yerself one of them cheap gazebos, 15 quid mine cost, 3mx3mx2m - 's a
godsend for working on vehicles.

>as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
>entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
>with a 1970's British Leyland product :)

of course :-)
Steve Taylor - 03 Oct 2004 10:48 GMT
> get yerself one of them cheap gazebos, 15 quid mine cost, 3mx3mx2m - 's a
> godsend for working on vehicles.

Costco do a really nice tent thingy for about 120 quid. Takes a whole
101 ambulance with room to spare.

Steve
Lee_D - 04 Oct 2004 01:15 GMT
>> get yerself one of them cheap gazebos, 15 quid mine cost, 3mx3mx2m - 's a
>> godsend for working on vehicles.
>
> Costco do a really nice tent thingy for about 120 quid. Takes a whole 101
> ambulance with room to spare.

Point me in that direction please sir...

Lee D
Mother - 04 Oct 2004 13:09 GMT
>Costco do a really nice tent thingy for about 120 quid. Takes a whole
>101 ambulance with room to spare.

And those who've seen us at Billing on the Ruftraks stand will know
what they look like (Andy gets a new one every year then tends to sell
it there, rather than take it back).  Yep, they're big enough - don't
pack away too big (back of a Disco should be fine).

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> >Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>
> get yerself one of them cheap gazebos, 15 quid mine cost, 3mx3mx2m - 's a
> godsend for working on vehicles.

"Ai! A gazebo!" cried Legolas.

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The Becketts - 03 Oct 2004 13:55 GMT
Jeez, we'd like some rain.  We've had water use restrictions for just on a
year now owing to lack of rain.

Ron
Emu Plains, Australia

> Oh for at least a car port to work under :(
>
> as for what I am doing posting here when I should be out in the wet I am
> entitled to the great British tea break am I not, especially as I am dealing
> with a 1970's British Leyland product :)
EMB - 03 Oct 2004 20:25 GMT
> Jeez, we'd like some rain.  We've had water use restrictions for just on a
> year now owing to lack of rain.
>
> Ron
> Emu Plains, Australia

Move to Auckland - it's pissing down here again this morning, and
blowing about 40 knots.

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Austin Shackles - 03 Oct 2004 21:25 GMT
>> Jeez, we'd like some rain.  We've had water use restrictions for just on a
>> year now owing to lack of rain.
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>Move to Auckland - it's pissing down here again this morning, and
>blowing about 40 knots.

and here, buggrit.  bloody kitchen roof's leaking.  's not the time of year
to be stripping felt and replacing it, but if we get a dry spell, I reckon
we're gonna have to.  sod.
The Becketts - 04 Oct 2004 14:18 GMT
Hey, that's Wellington weather!

Ron

> > Jeez, we'd like some rain.  We've had water use restrictions for just on a
> > year now owing to lack of rain.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Move to Auckland - it's pissing down here again this morning, and
> blowing about 40 knots.
EMB - 04 Oct 2004 22:08 GMT
> Hey, that's Wellington weather!
>
> Ron

Too many politicians there now - the hot air blows all the sh.t weather
up our way.  Still, sunshine and a nice day today with mud to pay in.

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