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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / October 2004

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Disco 300 tdi es auto running problems

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accywingy - 06 Oct 2004 20:53 GMT
A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
is a little under powered. I think thats down to a Turbo problem??????
there seems to be a blowing sound when the Turbo spins up, a bit like
its leaking if that doesn't sound too silly...

When approaching a hill it drives fine, going up hills is a little
slow, but when reaching the top and levelling off it seems to die. All
the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
Anybody had any similar experiences????

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Peter Seddon - 06 Oct 2004 22:19 GMT
> A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
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> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
> Anybody had any similar experiences????

The blowing sound is probably a ruptured hose after the turbo, this will
cause your lack of power but probably not your black smoke which sounds like
it's getting too much fuel. You don't say if it's got EDS or not, if it has
your ECU my be faulty. First job though is find and cure that leak, it may
just ssolve all your problems.

Peter

300TDi ES Auto with EDC
Pantelis Giamarellos - 07 Oct 2004 08:26 GMT
It sounds like a turbo related hose problem.

It has been known for large air leaks to also develop black smoke when
accelerating.

I would suggest you give a thorough checkup on the condition of the hoses
from the turbocharger to the intercooler and from the intercooler to the
engine. If those appear OK by visual inspection then remove them check them
from the inside and if they still appear ok put them back on the car taking
extra care so that they sit properly and the fasteners are tightened as much
as possible.

If you still have air leaking from the system then either recheck the hoses
or remove the intercooler and check for raptures/cracks/holes on it also.

hope this helps
Pantelis

> > A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> > When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
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>
> 300TDi ES Auto with EDC
Richard Brookman - 08 Oct 2004 19:45 GMT
Peter Seddon was greatly moved, and spake thus, saying:

> The blowing sound is probably a ruptured hose after the turbo, this
> will cause your lack of power but probably not your black smoke which
> sounds like it's getting too much fuel.

A ruptured hose would explain the over-fuelling/black smoke too.  Less air,
same fuelling, too much fuel for the available air, black smoke.

> You don't say if it's got EDS
> or not, if it has your ECU my be faulty.

Fix the hose first before you worry about that!

> First job though is find and
> cure that leak, it may just ssolve all your problems.

Agreed.

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thesnowbaron - 19 Oct 2004 08:10 GMT
I had this problem with my 93 Tdi and I just rivetted a plate across. That
was about 7 years ago. Welding weakens the area.
Frank     in Aussieland
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> A question for a mate really, but he has a 300 tdi es auto Discovery.
> When driving it under normal conditions it drives ok, if anything it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
> Anybody had any similar experiences????
thesnowbaron - 19 Oct 2004 08:21 GMT
This reply should've been in another group (seat required), sorry, somehow
it got in there.
Frank
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>I had this problem with my 93 Tdi and I just rivetted a plate across. That
>was about 7 years ago. Welding weakens the area.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> the power seems to dissapear and there's a plume of black smoke.
>> Anybody had any similar experiences????
 
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