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Huw - 06 Oct 2004 21:29 GMT

Heard today that the 2005 RR models, which are available now, have a
new fibre optic CAN-BUS control system and will have the new Jag V8
available by March 2005 with the Ford diesels available by the Autumn,
presumably a year from now.

Anyone know the crack on this fibre optic lark. Is the introduction,
if true, a result of any deficiency in the previous system. I need to
know because I am considering a new 2004 model diesel auto model.

Huw

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Nick Williams - 06 Oct 2004 23:00 GMT

> Heard today that the 2005 RR models, which are available now, have a
> new fibre optic CAN-BUS control system and will have the new Jag V8
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CAN-BUS is a (fairly) standard industrial control protocol, and it makes
sense to use a fibre optic system to distribute it around the vehicle as a
means of improving the immunity of the system to electrical noise.

I would not see this as an indication of any deficiency in the previous
models. It would be better to view it as a logical (and actually rather
significant) step in the on-going development of the application of
electronics to vehicle applications. If it's good enough for airliners, it's
good enough for Range Rovers.

I'll not be trading in my electronics free 90 2.5TD though!

Nick.

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Henry! - 11 Oct 2004 08:47 GMT

> Heard today that the 2005 RR models, which are available now, have a
> new fibre optic CAN-BUS control system and will have the new Jag V8
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>
> Huw

Maybe it's the buzz on the Range Rover Sport/Range Stormer, supposed to be
out in the end of 2005, with the Jaguar V-8 and 2,7l Diesel engines ? I'm
waiting for that one. OK, it's not a real Off Road Thing, but I guess good
enough for the everyday use.
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Henry!
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The Becketts - 13 Oct 2004 10:15 GMT

Rumour has it that the car is 300kg lighter owing to the reduced wiring

Ron

> > Heard today that the 2005 RR models, which are available now, have a
> > new fibre optic CAN-BUS control system and will have the new Jag V8
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> "Pleasure in a thing of beauty is the essence of a good life."
> Zino Davidoff

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Henry! - 13 Oct 2004 11:52 GMT

> Rumour has it that the car is 300kg lighter owing to the reduced wiring
>
> Ron

Oooh !
So now it just weighs 3,200 kg !
;-)
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Henry!
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"Pleasure in a thing of beauty is the essence of a good life."
Zino Davidoff

> > > Heard today that the 2005 RR models, which are available now, have a
> > > new fibre optic CAN-BUS control system and will have the new Jag V8
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> > "Pleasure in a thing of beauty is the essence of a good life."
> > Zino Davidoff

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Richard Brookman - 13 Oct 2004 17:54 GMT

So The Becketts was, like

> Rumour has it that the car is 300kg lighter owing to the reduced
> wiring
>
> Ron

Lighter than what? An oil tanker? :-)

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Huw - 14 Oct 2004 23:57 GMT

> Rumour has it that the car is 300kg lighter owing to the reduced
> wiring
>
> Ron

Still considering this deal. The weight advantage is surely
considerably less than 30kgs isn't it?
The question I really need an answer to is whether there were any
particular or general problems with the electrics on current RR models
which have been addressed to advantage with the advent of the fibre
optic wiring? Is there likely to be a premium for used vehicles with
fibre optics?

Huw

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The Becketts - 22 Oct 2004 23:55 GMT

The weight adavantage is unlikely to be 300kg - but I reckon it would be more
than 30kg.

The amount of wiring in a modern car is significant. I guess that's one of
the reasons why modern wiring has such thin insulation.

Advantages? Probably few connectors and less chance of faults there. I
understand that all manufacturers are now finding that electronic/electrical
gremlins are their biggest warranty problem.

Ron

> > Rumour has it that the car is 300kg lighter owing to the reduced
> > wiring
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> optic wiring? Is there likely to be a premium for used vehicles with
> fibre optics?

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