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101 Alternative shocks
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Rich Clafton - 14 Oct 2004 11:39 GMT So anyone got any ideas of source vehicles for an alternative shock absorber for the 101.?
Stocks have all but dried up or are expensive
Thoughts were a bedford MK - anyone got a workshop manual with a picture of the rear shocks ?
Or anyone got any other ideas
We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a single solution if possible
Alex - 14 Oct 2004 18:22 GMT >So anyone got any ideas of source vehicles for an alternative shock absorber >for the 101.? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a >single solution if possible Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to provide an equivalent.
Alex
Rich Clafton - 14 Oct 2004 19:01 GMT > Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give > them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to > provide an equivalent. > > Alex Have spoken to a rep at a show actually
Any ideas about how you sort out the damping force required ?
Especially as theres 2 types for 101's - ambi and the rest
Thanks for the thought though - will chase them up again
Alex - 14 Oct 2004 21:38 GMT >> Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give >> them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Especially as theres 2 types for 101's - ambi and the rest I didn't know the ambi had different shocks. Mind you, I never changed them on mine. The seem to make so little difference to the ride that they might as well not be there.
Besides, how many MOT testers can jump up and down on the corner of a 101 sufficiently to determine that the shocks are working? They certainly can't check them properly on my IIa, they usually give up after one corner.
Alex
Rich Clafton - 15 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT > I didn't know the ambi had different shocks. Mind you, I never changed > them on mine. The seem to make so little difference to the ride that > they might as well not be there. Actually most ambi's seem to run on GS shocks - seems the army had the same problem so just fitted what they had My ambi is on GS shocks front & back
> Besides, how many MOT testers can jump up and down on the corner of a > 101 sufficiently to determine that the shocks are working? They > certainly can't check them properly on my IIa, they usually give up > after one corner. Its really cos mine are tired and my mates have let all the oil leak out..... so we had to do a bit of swapping for MOT time
Rich
Sean Ryan - 14 Oct 2004 20:00 GMT > Or anyone got any other ideas > > We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a > single solution if possible Rich
Mate of mine who is rebuilding a GS down to last nut and bolt has got the local commercial vehicle parts place on the case. They were successful with 3/4 sankey shocks so we are hopeful. I'll let you and the rest of the 101 world know when it's sussed.
Sean 73FL74 101GS 1984 110 2.5NA Medway Military Vehicle Group www.mmvg.net
Rich Clafton - 15 Oct 2004 00:20 GMT > Mate of mine who is rebuilding a GS down to last nut and bolt has got > the local commercial vehicle parts place on the case. They were > successful with 3/4 sankey shocks so we are hopeful. I'll let you and > the rest of the 101 world know when it's sussed. Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed
Rich
Sean Ryan - 16 Oct 2004 20:14 GMT > Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed > > Rich I was being a bit optomistic, they have drawn a blank unfortunately. The guy who asked them to check has also just found 2 brand new ones amongst his stockpile of bits, lucky sod.
Sean 73FL74 101GS 1984 110 2.5N/A Medway Military Vehicle Group www.mmvg.net
Rich Clafton - 17 Oct 2004 14:20 GMT Sean
Oh well - thought it was too good
Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do the job but can't find one locally to have a look at
Cheers
Rich
> > Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Medway Military Vehicle Group > www.mmvg.net Sean Ryan - 17 Oct 2004 21:04 GMT > Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do > the job but can't find one locally to have a look at No sorry Rich, TM only, think they may be a bit stiff for a 101! There is at least one trader at Sodbury who also does Bedford bits, usually on the hedge line along from the entrance. You could try http://www.bedfordparts.co.uk/about.shtml who are the main bedford stockists for the world, based near Maidstone. They may be able to measure a few shocks up, something from a J type may work.
Sean 73FL74 101 GS 1984 110 2.5N/A Medway Military Vehicle Group www.mmvg.net
Austin Shackles - 17 Oct 2004 21:49 GMT >> Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do >> the job but can't find one locally to have a look at [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >main bedford stockists for the world, based near Maidstone. They may >be able to measure a few shocks up, something from a J type may work. what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo?
Rich - 20 Oct 2004 10:39 GMT g from a J type may work.
> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo? Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime
Rich
Mother - 20 Oct 2004 13:56 GMT >> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo? > >Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime Remember to take a jack and some bricks...
Austin Shackles - 20 Oct 2004 19:28 GMT >>> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo? >> >>Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime > >Remember to take a jack and some bricks... snigger.
I'm assuming that the sought-after dampers are simple telescopic ones. 'most all the trucks use such, the only question you might have is whether they have enough travel. There are ways around that, too, though, like mounting them at an angle to multiply the travel.
'course, the other thing is to fit two lesser dampers per side, if the problem is simply one of not having a stiff enough damper.
Mother - 21 Oct 2004 09:55 GMT >I'm assuming that the sought-after dampers are simple telescopic ones. >'most all the trucks use such, the only question you might have is whether >they have enough travel. There are ways around that, too, though, like >mounting them at an angle to multiply the travel. It makes sense, lest you be a rivetcounter, obviously, to source suitable replacements which you can buy off the shelf. Some 101 owners will die with the original shocks on (read into that what you will), others who use theirs on a regular basis may be more concerned with the shockers doing their job properly rather than being authentic or expensive.
Rich Clafton - 21 Oct 2004 22:19 GMT > It makes sense, lest you be a rivetcounter, obviously, to source > suitable replacements which you can buy off the shelf. Some 101 > owners will die with the original shocks on (read into that what you > will), others who use theirs on a regular basis may be more concerned > with the shockers doing their job properly rather than being authentic > or expensive. Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo
The proper shocks seem to be good unlike most standard landy shocks but it would be nice to have an off the shelf replacement
Now the perfect spare would be off a merc so we can get them anywhere
Rich
Mother - 22 Oct 2004 17:12 GMT >Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence >going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo Yeah, not sure I'd do the PAS again. Charlotte is _far_ too fond of it...
Alex - 22 Oct 2004 17:22 GMT >>Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence >>going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo > >Yeah, not sure I'd do the PAS again. Charlotte is _far_ too fond of >it... Hah, serves you right for making it comfortable and easy to drive.
Heavy steering, funny brakes, confusing gearlevers, leaky door seals - the best way I know to prevent other people wanting to drive it.
Alex
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