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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / October 2004

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300 Tdi Defender Door Hinge Bolts

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Scott - 18 Oct 2004 11:08 GMT
On the weekend, I decided to try to pump some "Waxoyl" into the bulkhead of
the Defender. I wanted to get it down into the channels that the door hinges
bolt into, so I thought that by removing the top door hinge bolt, I might
gain access for the tube.

Well I loosened the bolt, then I heard a tinny crumbling sound and the bolt
now spins freely in the hinge, but will not come out.

I assume there WAS some sort of chassis clip that the bolt engages into,
that has probably rusted and subsequently broke when I applied brute force
to it.

Has anybody experienced a similar problem, and if so do you have any
suggestions on how to proceed. I am not game to undo any of the other bolts
in case it happens to them as well, and my doors sag!

Regards

Scott Forbes
AN6530 - 18 Oct 2004 16:38 GMT
>Subject: 300 Tdi Defender Door Hinge Bolts
>From: "Scott" saforbes@optusnet.com.au
>Date: 18/10/2004 11:08 GMT

<snip> I wanted to get it down into the channels that the door hinges
>bolt into, so I thought that by removing the top door hinge bolt, I might
>gain access for the tube.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Has anybody experienced a similar problem, and if so do you have any
>suggestions on how to proceed. <snip>

They use a square nut held captive in a steel clip which in turn clips into a
square hole in the bulkhead. Unfortunately the clip rusts and either comes
unclipped or allows the nut to rotate.

Once this happens an option is to drill out the the screw but remember you will
still need to get the other screw to release the hinge out in order to replace
the captive nut.

Regards getting Waxoyl in there: If you use a long thinnish probe on your
sprayer it is possibe to thread it up into the bulkhead via the bottom of the
pillar above the chassis bulkhead outrigger. At least this will save you
disturbing the hinge bolts on the other side!

Steve. Suffolk.
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AN6530 - 18 Oct 2004 16:43 GMT
>Subject: Re: 300 Tdi Defender Door Hinge Bolts
>From: an6530@aol.comknujon  (AN6530)
>Date: 18/10/2004 16:38 GMT

Further to my last the captive nut Part No's I have are MRC 2176 or ASR 1459
for later vehicles from VIN (V) WA 138480

Steve. Suffolk.
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Larry - 18 Oct 2004 21:27 GMT
I have a second row door with one of the hinge bolts effectively screwed
into nothingness at the bottom.

There was not a lot left of my bulkhead where the front door hinges were
recently, the only solution was welding repair patches to the bulkhead in
the end.

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Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

> On the weekend, I decided to try to pump some "Waxoyl" into the bulkhead of
> the Defender. I wanted to get it down into the channels that the door hinges
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Scott Forbes
Scott - 19 Oct 2004 15:11 GMT
Thanks for the support and advice, much appreciated.

Regards
Scott
Scott - 26 Oct 2004 14:49 GMT
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Austin Shackles - 26 Oct 2004 16:14 GMT
>1

2
Richard - 26 Oct 2004 17:46 GMT
anymore offers?
4!

>>1
>>
> 2
frodo - 26 Oct 2004 22:21 GMT
> anymore offers?
> 4!

(n + 1) !
Hehhehhehhehheh..........  

Maybe the following is worth a read... Happens all the time doesn't it !
:)))) ...and why not!!

...  frodo.

____________________________________________________________________
A lesson in Posting ( that has 'done the rounds' recently):

    *How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb?*
   
    1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has
    been changed

    14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and
    how the light bulb could have been changed differently

    7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

    27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
    changing light bulbs

    53 to flame the spell checkers

    41 to correct spelling/grammar flames

    6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...

    another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive

    2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper
    term is "lamp"

    15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and
    that "light bulb" is perfectly correct

    156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are
    in violation of their "acceptable use policy"

    109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to
    please take this discussion to a lightbulb group

    203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic
    forum, and lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be
    stopped

    111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use
    light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group

    306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is
    superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of
    light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are
    faulty

    27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light
    bulbs

    14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then
    post the corrected URL's

    3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are
    relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to
    this group

    33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety
    including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

    12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because
    they cannot handle the light bulb controversy

    19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three"

    4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ

    44 to ask what is a "FAQ"

    4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

    143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting
    questions about light bulbs"

    1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from
    now and start it all over again....

__________________________________________________________________________
Austin Shackles - 27 Oct 2004 09:04 GMT
>____________________________________________________________________
>A lesson in Posting ( that has 'done the rounds' recently):
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>     1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has
>     been changed

[snip]

>     1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from
>     now and start it all over again....
>
>__________________________________________________________________________

and I reckon we should add:

     1 to repost the thing about "how many posters does it take
     to change a light bulb".

to the end of it.
frodo - 27 Oct 2004 23:40 GMT
> >____________________________________________________________________
> >A lesson in Posting ( that has 'done the rounds' recently):
///....
> and I reckon we should add:
>
>       1 to repost the thing about "how many posters does it take
>       to change a light bulb".
>
> to the end of it.

Hehhehheh.......  Quite clever, Austin.  :)))..... I should've thought of
that ! I hadn't seen it before and wanted to share it in the light of the
'numerical' build ups :)........ I guess we _all_ fit some of the
categories from time to time! :)))

...frodo.
Richard Brookman - 26 Oct 2004 18:15 GMT
So Austin Shackles was, like

>> 1
>>
> 2

a-1-2-3-4
Simon Isaacs - 26 Oct 2004 18:44 GMT
> So Austin Shackles was, like
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> a-1-2-3-4

1-3-4-2 surely!

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Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
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Austin Shackles - 26 Oct 2004 22:22 GMT
>> So Austin Shackles was, like
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>1-3-4-2 surely!

nah...

1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2

(and yes, i did look in the book)

and for a bonus point... which engine is:

1-4-2-5-3-6?
Richard - 26 Oct 2004 22:29 GMT
2.6l  I suppose ?

>>> So Austin Shackles was, like
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> 1-4-2-5-3-6?
Austin Shackles - 27 Oct 2004 09:11 GMT
(at the top, tsk....)

>2.6l  I suppose ?

only by chance, if it is.  's not the one I was thinking of.

>> and for a bonus point... which engine is:
>>
>> 1-4-2-5-3-6?
Simon Barr - 27 Oct 2004 16:24 GMT
In article <auftn0ti9mf8hpa42e4k408p609gc8vipj@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles wrote:)

> and for a bonus point... which engine is:
>
> 1-4-2-5-3-6?

Essex or Cologne?

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                simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

Austin Shackles - 27 Oct 2004 19:53 GMT
>In article <auftn0ti9mf8hpa42e4k408p609gc8vipj@4ax.com>, Austin Shackles wrote:)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Essex or Cologne?

close enough... Cologne.  I dunno if the Essex is the same.
Simon Barr - 28 Oct 2004 08:31 GMT
>>Essex or Cologne?
>
> close enough... Cologne.  I dunno if the Essex is the same.

Thought so, that's what was/is in your XR4 isn't it?  I used google to find
out.  It seems that some V6's fire in 1-2-3-4-5-6 order according to info I
found.

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                simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

Austin Shackles - 28 Oct 2004 09:04 GMT
>>>Essex or Cologne?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>out.  It seems that some V6's fire in 1-2-3-4-5-6 order according to info I
>found.

how boring.  Yes, it is in the XR4x4, and the latter is sitting in the front
drive looking reproachfully at me every time I drive in the gate.
 
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