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Slightly OT, this winters weather ?

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Hirsty's - 28 Oct 2004 17:08 GMT
I know, I know it's the English disease talking about weather. Trouble is
for the last few years , no play as snow is pathetic up here in North Kent,
so ....

read somewhere that this winter will be the hardest for a century;  anybody
heard this or am I imagining things  ?

John H

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of wisdom to listen"
Nige - 28 Oct 2004 17:58 GMT
>I know, I know it's the English disease talking about weather. Trouble is
> for the last few years , no play as snow is pathetic up here in North Kent,
> so ....
>
> read somewhere that this winter will be the hardest for a century;  anybody
> heard this or am I imagining things  ?

I heard the same too!
Connor T - 28 Oct 2004 18:13 GMT
I also heard this.

However, walking to work this afternoon, about 19degrees c, and im thinking
err, what, calm before the storm, or just a load of old cobblers :)

In fact where I now live i've yet to see decent snow at all!  Apparently
it's coz wer'e in a local valley, more like too close to London so it just
never gets cold enough!

Dan

> I know, I know it's the English disease talking about weather. Trouble is
> for the last few years , no play as snow is pathetic up here in North Kent,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> " ..... it is the provenence of knowledge to speak, and it is the privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
Pete Foster - 28 Oct 2004 19:38 GMT
> read somewhere that this winter will be the hardest for a century;  anybody
> heard this or am I imagining things  ?

Yeah, I heard this too.  Which probably means it's going to be one of the
mildest winters I've ever seen.

Cynical?  Me?  ;o)

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Richard - 28 Oct 2004 20:08 GMT
Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
We are near Maidstone and as I type we are having one hell of a storm. Lots
of flashing and banging.  Just come back from my parents house and had to
drive through water about a foot deep on a main road. Glad we were in the
Discovery, if we had gone in my wifes car could be a bit water logged!
It was beautiful this afternoon, outside in short sleeves, was that the calm
before the storm!
Richard

>I know, I know it's the English disease talking about weather. Trouble is
> for the last few years , no play as snow is pathetic up here in North
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
Hirsty's - 28 Oct 2004 21:37 GMT
> Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?

Bexleyheath; just a little drizzle. Not enough to soak the little yobs
standing on the corners yet.     :-))
Richard - 28 Oct 2004 23:50 GMT
mmm, you got them there too ?

>> Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
>
> Bexleyheath; just a little drizzle. Not enough to soak the little yobs
> standing on the corners yet.     :-))
Richard - 28 Oct 2004 20:08 GMT
Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
We are near Maidstone and as I type we are having one hell of a storm. Lots
of flashing and banging.  Just come back from my parents house and had to
drive through water about a foot deep on a main road. Glad we were in the
Discovery, if we had gone in my wifes car could be a bit water logged!
It was beautiful this afternoon, outside in short sleeves, was that the calm
before the storm!
Richard

>I know, I know it's the English disease talking about weather. Trouble is
> for the last few years , no play as snow is pathetic up here in North
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> privelage
> of wisdom to listen"
Si K - 28 Oct 2004 21:13 GMT
> Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
> We are near Maidstone and as I type we are having one hell of a storm. Lots
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> before the storm!
> Richard

Blimey, I could call you local - I'm in swanley

That was an interesting storm wasn't it!

Oh, and as for the winters weather, I think the quote was "the hardest this
century" not "for a century" rather a big difference methinks

Si
Hirsty's - 28 Oct 2004 21:39 GMT
> Oh, and as for the winters weather, I think the quote was "the hardest this
> century" not "for a century" rather a big difference methinks

I was trying to be optimistic. On a serious note though I got the
immpression that the comment was intended to include the last 100 years,
Austin Shackles - 28 Oct 2004 21:42 GMT
>> Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
>> We are near Maidstone and as I type we are having one hell of a storm.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Oh, and as for the winters weather, I think the quote was "the hardest this
>century" not "for a century" rather a big difference methinks

hmmm.  hardest winter for 4 years, then.  wot rot.
mark hh - 28 Oct 2004 23:22 GMT
Just remember a year ago...

..5mm of snow is enough to grind us to 4 day halt - hope you've got your
winter muddies fitted!

BTW Which is best in the winter, muddies or mud and snow?

cheers

Mark HH

> >> Where in North Kent are you Hirsty's?
> >> We are near Maidstone and as I type we are having one hell of a storm.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >
> hmmm.  hardest winter for 4 years, then.  wot rot.
Steve Taylor - 28 Oct 2004 23:46 GMT
> BTW Which is best in the winter, muddies or mud and snow?

bar grips, for the extra frisson of terror.

Steve
Austin Shackles - 29 Oct 2004 08:46 GMT
>> BTW Which is best in the winter, muddies or mud and snow?
>
>bar grips, for the extra frisson of terror.

<chortle>

well the last time we had snow mine was an Nankang ATs, (wide conks).

my disco is currently on Pirelli STs, mother(not Martyn)'s is on BFG ATs.

Actually, snow tyres are more like ATs or even STs or GT4s or the like, with
lots of small blocks rather than a few bigguns.

I imagine the michelin one which is all little square blocks would be quite
good, I forget which that is.  But the Pirelli ST is something similar.
Mr.Nice. - 29 Oct 2004 11:12 GMT
Twas Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:46:35 +0100 when Austin Shackles
<austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> put finger to keyboard producing:

>>> BTW Which is best in the winter, muddies or mud and snow?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>I imagine the michelin one which is all little square blocks would be quite
>good, I forget which that is.  But the Pirelli ST is something similar.

I used to take land rovers into the rough country in bosnia, they know
a thing or two about snow there.
I personally preferred narrow(ish) mud tyres as they would cut into
the snow and give better traction (or even grip) whereas wider tyres
and/or tyres with a less aggressive tread would be more likely to ride
atop the snow, which has uses in some places.

Regards.
Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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Alun P - 29 Oct 2004 08:53 GMT
Hardest winter this century?.....bah....humbug!

Last real winter I saw was about 10 years ago and we actually had a bout a
foot of snow here in SE Essex, bugger all since........

And what did we have last winter??? about 2" snow that lasted for two days
and as per a previous post, the whole country ground to a stand still.

What happened to the real winters we had 20-30 years ago, when was the last
time anyone went tabogganing in se England????

AlunP
Austin Shackles - 29 Oct 2004 13:03 GMT
>Hardest winter this century?.....bah....humbug!
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>What happened to the real winters we had 20-30 years ago, when was the last
>time anyone went tabogganing in se England????

dunno.  the last *proper* snow we had was in about 1981 or 1982.

's global warming, innit.
Steve - 29 Oct 2004 16:55 GMT
> >Hardest winter this century?.....bah....humbug!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> dunno.  the last *proper* snow we had was in about 1981 or 1982.

It depends where you are/were.  About 10 years ago where I was in Scotland
endured almost 3 weeks of sub-zero at the back end of December, the coldest
bit getting down to -24?C at night.  I went out with my video camera one day
(after the ploughs had made holes big enough to drive the main road - yes,
holes!!) and got pictures of the rather impressive snow and drifts.
RangeRover 3.5 Vogue EFi back then on standard 205/16's.  No problemo.  This
was on the east coast near Aberdeen mind, not up some pokey little mountain
track!  I also video'd my outside wall thermometer on the house.  The time
was 1245 pm (so just after maximum sun heating) and the thermometer is
clearly down at -12?C.  This was actually a couple of days after the coldest
bit, so I don't know how that compared.  Dunno about the last 3 winters cos
I don't live up there any more, but that was the last *real* winter we had
whilst I was there.  It's cow farts, innit.

Steve
Paul Everett - 30 Oct 2004 09:31 GMT
> read somewhere that this winter will be the hardest for a century;  anybody
> heard this or am I imagining things  ?

http://www.metcheck.com/premium/winter2004.asp

These are the people who correctly predicted that this summer would be a
bit of a washout. Of course that could have just been a lucky guess...

Paul

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Richard Brookman - 30 Oct 2004 12:20 GMT
So Paul Everett was, like

> http://www.metcheck.com/premium/winter2004.asp

Brilliant site - now in my favourites, thanks.  However, it gives (at 12:00
Saturday) 8-12mph winds, some rain and 100% cloud for Pembrokeshire.  As I
look out of the window at 12:20, it's calm and dry with bright sunshine.
Can't have everything, I spose.

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Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium

Si K - 30 Oct 2004 12:36 GMT
> So Paul Everett was, like
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> look out of the window at 12:20, it's calm and dry with bright sunshine.
> Can't have everything, I spose.

or better still, have a look at the real weather forecasters views as stated
in and on uk.sci.weather - metcheck are not taken that well on that group

Si
 
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