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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / April 2005

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disco 3.9 starting prob

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tomtom - 10 Apr 2005 22:10 GMT
1993 disco 3.9V8 petrol
I have starting problem.
It just will not start, fuel getting there, (plugs wettish) spark is
present. JUST WONT GO!!!
has anybody any pointers please?

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computer - 10 Apr 2005 23:31 GMT
Alarm Spider :(

Bypass it....

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tomtom - 10 Apr 2005 23:37 GMT
Please tell me more, how, where.
PLEASE PLEASE

> Alarm Spider :(
>
> Bypass it....
Richard - 11 Apr 2005 06:16 GMT
Didnt think a 93 model would have an alarm spider? my 95 model hasnt. I
believe 96 models have the ones with more than one button on the remote. I
was told single button remote models dont have the alarm spider?
Richard

> Alarm Spider :(
>
> Bypass it....
alan brown - 12 Apr 2005 20:25 GMT
Has anything been done to the engine since it last ran ok or did this just
occur from the last switch off?

> 1993 disco 3.9V8 petrol
> I have starting problem.
> It just will not start, fuel getting there, (plugs wettish) spark is
> present. JUST WONT GO!!!
> has anybody any pointers please?
TonyB - 13 Apr 2005 22:16 GMT
> > 1993 disco 3.9V8 petrol
> > I have starting problem.
> > It just will not start, fuel getting there, (plugs wettish) spark is
> > present. JUST WONT GO!!!
> > has anybody any pointers please?

Timing slipped?
TonyB
tomtom - 15 Apr 2005 23:13 GMT
Nup, it was my neighbours and was always apig to start
> Has anything been done to the engine since it last ran ok or did this just
> occur from the last switch off?
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>> present. JUST WONT GO!!!
>> has anybody any pointers please?
Austin Shackles - 16 Apr 2005 09:35 GMT
>Nup, it was my neighbours and was always apig to start

I had a mystery failure on one of my V8s, the rotor arm went short to the
post inside.  Took much head scratching to solve that one.

If it's "always a pig to start" there's something wrong with it, though - my
hotwire 3.5 is pretty good - it's slightly iffy at the moment but then it's
due a new set of plugs at this (or maybe the last :-)) service.

leads are a good source of problems, if they're not in good condition.
Magnecor are worth the extra pennies, IMHO.

You could try using a second battery or a battery charger to supply a full
12V to the coil positive (the -ve goes to the engine block, not to the other
side of the coil!) - We used to have a motor which needed this treatment -
eventually found that the ignition switch was for some reason not supplying
full voltage/current, and that the voltage drop when cranking killed the
sparks.

doing that will eliminate any ignition-feed problems, including immobilisers
affecting the ignition.

have you tried towing it to bumpstart it?

Other things to check: cold start system (I think there is such a thing on
the hotwire...) for function;  fuel system in general for correct settings.
Depending on age it may or may not be closed loop (i.e. lambda sensors in
the exhaust) and that could add problems;  fuel lift pump for correct
operation and output - on mine, I had a fuel pump that went lazy - it still
ran and still pumped fuel, just not enough.

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