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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / November 2005Winter good samaritan checklist
So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't prepared properly. I thought it would be good to tap the collective mind of Usenet to generate a winter checklist of things that we should carry in our Land Rover's to be prepared for all winter eventualities such as breaking down ourselves, or acting the good samaritan when coming across another road user having broken down. Here's my starter for ten, please add as you think of more and I will summarise them all together on a web page ... - Warm clothing (fleece, hat, gloves, etc) - Spare clothing - Shovel - Recovery rope - Recovery shackles - Jate rings / recovery eyes - Tool kit including essentials such as WD40, de-icer, lock de-icer. - Fuel cans with unleaded and diesel in - Funnel - Spare coolant anti-freeze pre-mix - Fire extinguisher - Mobile phone - Hi-lift jack - Tyre pump - Jump leads Regards, Dave. '92 200tdi 90 > So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon > us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Dave. > '92 200tdi 90 That's a good start, to which I would add - Fortnum and Mason's jumbo festive hamper - Inflatable yellow helicopter - Britney Spears Kind regards, M :o) 94 300tdi 90 > That's a good start, to which I would add > > - Fortnum and Mason's jumbo festive hamper > - Inflatable yellow helicopter Because Sarah Ferguson is short a few quid at the moment, and the merchandising royalties from Budgie would help her out this Christmas > - Britney Spears I think Derry already covered this with his "Bucket of sand" :@) P. > So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon > us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > - Tool kit including essentials such as > WD40, de-icer, lock de-icer. Keep the lock de-icer in the house or in your pocket....... last year I had 100 bottles on the van one icy morning and none in my hand............... > - Fuel cans with unleaded and diesel in > - Funnel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > - Tyre pump > - Jump leads - RadWeld And if in Good Samartian mode: - sheaf of legal disclaimers against damage, injury, causing the end of the world etc. > Regards, > > Dave. > '92 200tdi 90 Richard  Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!! Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay >> - Warm clothing (fleece, hat, gloves, etc) >> - Spare clothing Don't forget wellies or boots and socks, leggings will keep snow out of your wellie tops. >> - Shovel >> - Recovery rope >> - Recovery shackles >> - Jate rings / recovery eyes >> - Tool kit including essentials such as >> WD40, de-icer, lock de-icer. Whats the WD40 for? I guess sopping wet spark ignition things? In which case an old towel is probably just as effective. Indeed a towel or two should be on the list anyway. Drying/wiping hands etc >> - Fuel cans with unleaded and diesel in >> - Funnel >> - Spare coolant anti-freeze pre-mix >> - Fire extinguisher Unless you happen across a vechicle that has only just started to burn I can't see much point. A small one ins't going to have the umph to put out very much and the damage is so quick to body panels/paint work the car rapid becomes a write off anyway. And why waste time trying and probably failing to put out a fire if some one is trapped? I guess you could use the fire extinguisher to break windows to get people out. One of those emergancy hammers is probably better to break toughend glass though. I've watch people try and break an old toughened windscreen with a cold chisel and medium hammer, started with a gentle tap, ended up really having to give it some wellie before it went. >> - Mobile phone With charged battery, car adapter or spare battery. >> - Hi-lift jack >> - Tyre pump >> - Jump leads > And if in Good Samartian mode: > - sheaf of legal disclaimers against damage, injury, causing the end > of the world etc. Good one. It's sad that one has to think of these things though. SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail > Unless you happen across a vechicle that has only just started to burn > I can't see much point. A small one ins't going to have the umph to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > with a gentle tap, ended up really having to give it some wellie > before it went. For toughened glass all you need is a spring loaded centre punch. Just give the window a pop near the edge and it's all over. No hassle, no looking stupid and no flying glass. I've put out a couple of fairly well-involved under bonnet fires with a 2kg dry powder extinguisher - worth carrying if for no other reason than for use on your own vehicle if the unexpected happens. SignatureEMB > So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is > upon us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Dave. > '92 200tdi 90 Bucket of sand. No kidding. Long line of traffic stuck on the hill out of Craigellachie, Speyside, all due to one lorry with spinning wheels. Nobody thought to see what he had last carried -- sand! Five minutes with a shovel and everyone was moving again. With your list, we'd still be there. Derry (10 years on Speyside and not bothered by snow) >So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon >us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Dave. >'92 200tdi 90 A piece of paper with the following words on it "I, (print name) agree that any assistance rendered is at my request and entirely at my own risk and in no way will (insert your name) be responsible for any damage to this vehicle (enter reg no) or any personal possessions or injury to myself or any of my passengers." Or something along those lines. You don't think that's necessary? Signaturehugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting >A piece of paper with the following words on it >"I, (print name) agree that any assistance rendered is at my request and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Or something along those lines. You don't think that's necessary? Someone once put up a standard salvage agreement with disclaimers in it for tow recovery, anyone remember where it is? AJH >So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon >us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Dave. >'92 200tdi 90 I also carry a bag of cheap cat litter (I do my servicing at the roadside about 20 minutes form my house and often have a bit of a spill) and glass cleaner (fecking great for degreasing mucky hands) a cheap sleeping bag (takes up less space than a blanket and way better. Just reminded me, wifes car battery is about 6 years old and I don't know how old mine is (only bought the car this year) so a couple of new batteries will be sought. -- Mark. www.mvp-fine-art.co.uk www.markvarleyphoto.co.uk www.mvp-gallery.com www.4x4info.info www.beautifulbondage.net www.shoot-to-thrill.com www.bespoke-bondage.com "nec aspera terrent" >and glass cleaner (fecking great for degreasing mucky hands) Halford's "big industrial wipes" are good, too. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep." Robert Frost (1874-1963) from Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening > So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon > us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Dave. > '92 200tdi 90 If your carrying all that stuff around as a good samaritan I'd suggest you pack another type of Jack as a highlift will make a terrible mess to the side of a Mundano with a flat..... ...and Mark spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... > If your carrying all that stuff around as a good samaritan I'd > suggest you pack another type of Jack as a highlift will make a > terrible mess to the side of a Mundano with a flat..... This thread just reminds me of that fabulous "Tonycar" mpeg that was going about a while ago. Snow + 4x4 + stuck shiny pimpmobile = lots of laughs. A Hi-lift would have made it even better. SignatureRich ============================== Disco 300 Tdi auto S2a 88" SW Tiggrr (V8 trialler) >This thread just reminds me of that fabulous "Tonycar" mpeg that was going >about a while ago. Snow + 4x4 + stuck shiny pimpmobile = lots of laughs. A >Hi-lift would have made it even better. This one? http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/tonycar.wmv Lazy feckers got exactly what they deserved IMO - t'would have been easier and quicker to dig it out - not that it was actually stuck, though... Signature"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005 ...and Mother" <"@ {mother} @ spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... >> This thread just reminds me of that fabulous "Tonycar" mpeg that was >> going about a while ago. Snow + 4x4 + stuck shiny pimpmobile = lots [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > easier and quicker to dig it out - not that it was actually stuck, > though... That's the one. Thank you for making it available in time for the festive season to help all those who might be persuaded to pull a piece of cheap junk out of a snowdrift without first getting the driver to sign something watertight. I just LOVE the noise (and the chorus of "Oh Man" immediately afterwards). I'm still laughing. SignatureRich ============================== Disco 300 Tdi auto S2a 88" SW Tiggrr (V8 trialler) >...and Mother" <"@ {mother} @ spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >I just LOVE the noise (and the chorus of "Oh Man" immediately afterwards). >I'm still laughing. yeah, it raises a smile. Just had to pull the 300 TDi out of an unexpectedly deep ditch (no, not my driving this time), and remembered the comments abut how lashdown eyes are not for towing, so sent a chain round the axle instead. Judging by the amount of pull needed (axles were grounded) it'd might've been a bad move to use the lashdown eyes, at that. Ah. Justy noticed it's getting dark, and I was supposed to be pressure-washing the crap off it. better go and do it. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic face by frightening people in the street. from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton. > Just had to pull the 300 TDi out of an unexpectedly deep ditch (no, not my > driving this time), and remembered the comments abut how lashdown eyes are > not for towing, so sent a chain round the axle instead. Judging by the > amount of pull needed (axles were grounded) it'd might've been a bad move to > use the lashdown eyes, at that. A thought along similar lines: I haven't got round to getting a tow bar fitted to the Defender yet. Should I feel good natured enough to help a stuck motorist should I: a) wait for the feeling to go away? or b) offer some assistance using a suitable anchor point on the rear crossmember? If b) is a realistic option, can the panel suggest a suitable rope anchor point? Grab handles have been fitted, but I don't want to have to re-fit them after good Samaritaning someone out of a ditch. Suggestions without deviation, hesitation, repetition or routes involving Mornington Crescent would be appreciated. Signaturejermec You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is! >>This thread just reminds me of that fabulous "Tonycar" mpeg that was going >>about a while ago. Snow + 4x4 + stuck shiny pimpmobile = lots of laughs. A [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >easier and quicker to dig it out - not that it was actually stuck, >though... Some people are just SOOOOOOOOOO stupid. Judith >So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is upon >us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who haven't [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Dave. >'92 200tdi 90 Start n charge Torch Windscreen waasher fluid (prediluted) Wellies SignatureSimon Isaacs Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director 101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer! Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next 1993 200 TDi Discovery 1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded..... >> So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is >> upon us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Windscreen waasher fluid (prediluted) > Wellies Hi Group You have missed one important thing- Ask what political party do you support? If its LibDem, F........ stay there you pillock! Merry Christmas to all except LibDems Robert > So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is > upon us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who > haven't prepared properly. <snip> Here's my starter for ten, please add as you think of more and > I will summarise them all together on a web page ... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > - Tyre pump > - Jump leads So you all think that owning a 4x4 means you can get anywhere without getting stuck? .... but what IF there is a long line of immobile vehicles and you are bedded in for the night? My list invariably includes (much to Rich's amusement and horror): A rucksuck in which there is - Head-torch Sleeping bags Foil emergency bags Leki Sticks (plus snow ends) Walking Boots Thick socks Trangia stove Matches Instant soup Instant coffee/tea/milk Water Thermal gloves & hat Mars Bars Old carpet - to put under wheels Plus, of course, all the items that Dave mentions - which leaves no room for luggage. Because we have always carried these in the depths of winter heading through North Wales we have never ever got stuck - so the moral of the story is to always carry EVERYTHING and you will have a clear run! SignatureDi "The hurrier I am the behinder I get" ...and Diane Brookman spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... >> So, here in the UK we've just had a chilly reminder that winter is >> upon us shortly with very heavy frosts catching a few people out who [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > through North Wales we have never ever got stuck - so the moral of > the story is to always carry EVERYTHING and you will have a clear run! The Land Rover never gets stuck - but the articulated trailer we have to pull behind causes no end of bother. :-( SignatureRich ============================== Disco 300 Tdi auto S2a 88" SW Tiggrr (V8 trialler) >The Land Rover never gets stuck - but the articulated trailer we have to >pull behind causes no end of bother. :-( I'll offer to help you out here - by way of eating the Mars Bars, obviously :-) Signature"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005 ...and Mother" <"@ {mother} @ spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... >> The Land Rover never gets stuck - but the articulated trailer we >> have to pull behind causes no end of bother. :-( > > I'll offer to help you out here - by way of eating the Mars Bars, > obviously :-) Mars Bars aren't the problem. What I need is someone to work out why I get 10 mpg more when travelling alone. :-) SignatureRich ============================== Disco 300 Tdi auto S2a 88" SW Tiggrr (V8 trialler) >> The Land Rover never gets stuck - but the articulated trailer we >> have to pull behind causes no end of bother. :-( Hmmmmm .... go on admit it then - the artic' trailer is for all my shoes :-( > I'll offer to help you out here - by way of eating the Mars Bars, > obviously :-) I HAVE to reply to that dear Mother. Next time I shall remember to add the Flapjacks and chocolate cake ;-) SignatureDi "The hurrier I am the behinder I get" >I HAVE to reply to that dear Mother. Next time I shall remember to add the >Flapjacks and chocolate cake ;-) My Tailor sends his love :-) Signature"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005 ...and Mother" <"@ {mother} @ spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying... >> I HAVE to reply to that dear Mother. Next time I shall remember to >> add the Flapjacks and chocolate cake ;-) > > My Tailor sends his love :-) Elasticated waists are a Good Idea (tm). SignatureRich ============================== Disco 300 Tdi auto S2a 88" SW Tiggrr (V8 trialler) |
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