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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / December 2005

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Brake pad recommendation

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Michael - 16 Dec 2005 16:50 GMT
I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.

I am confused about what brake pad to buy which will replace the
original equipment (or better).  I am told they were ceramic, and I was
told they were semi-metallic.  The dealership said both also on two
different occasions.

What is prompting this is that I had a front brake job done last year at
a Brake place (not Lexus) and the brakes squeal and a ton of dust.  Rear
wheels look fine.

What brake pads should I buy (for all 4 wheels) ??  Thanks

p.s.
I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices
Ray O - 16 Dec 2005 17:10 GMT
> I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
>
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> I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
> folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices

Why don't you purchase the OEM pads at a Lexus dealer and have them
installed by a trustworthy and competent local independent shop?
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Michael - 16 Dec 2005 18:08 GMT
>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> Why don't you purchase the OEM pads at a Lexus dealer and have them
> installed by a trustworthy and competent local independent shop?

See my 'p.s.' ... They want $84 per set.  I am sure that Lexus gets
their pads from a third party supplier ... anyone know who that is so I
can buy them for a half the price ....  thanks..
Ray O - 16 Dec 2005 19:08 GMT
>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> pads from a third party supplier ... anyone know who that is so I can buy
> them for a half the price ....  thanks..

Hmmm, I think I paid somewhere in the $40's for pads for my LS at our local
Lexus dealer.

If you know the part number, go online and see if you can find the part
number for less.

Toyota's OEM brake supplier is Akebono.
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Michael - 16 Dec 2005 20:52 GMT
>>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> Toyota's OEM brake supplier is Akebono.

do you know if I should order the Ceramic Akebono brakes ore the
semi-metallic?  (I don't know the part number unfortunately)

Thanks!
Ray O - 16 Dec 2005 21:13 GMT
>>>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> Thanks!

I believe semi-metallic is OEM so I'd stick to semi-metallic.  Ceramic may
last a little longer but will also cost more.
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Michael - 16 Dec 2005 21:53 GMT
>>>>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> I believe semi-metallic is OEM so I'd stick to semi-metallic.  Ceramic may
> last a little longer but will also cost more.
Thanks Ray !
Ray O - 16 Dec 2005 21:55 GMT
>>>>>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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>> may last a little longer but will also cost more.
> Thanks Ray !

You're welcome!
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Curtis Newton - 17 Dec 2005 03:20 GMT
>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
>
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>I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
>folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices

I am very happy with the PBR Deluxe (organic) pads.

Very rotor friendly and virtually dust free.
Michael - 17 Dec 2005 14:37 GMT
>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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> Very rotor friendly and virtually dust free.

Are they original Lexus replacement pads?
Curtis Newton - 17 Dec 2005 17:23 GMT
>>>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
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>Are they original Lexus replacement pads?

They are not OEM pads.  But, from my experience, they are excellent
pads. I believe Akebono are the OEM pads.

The Axxis (PBR) deluxe organic pad is about $35, the metal master is
about $40, and the ceramic (kevlar) is about $45.

http://www.importrp.com
Curtis Newton - 17 Dec 2005 17:35 GMT
>I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
>
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>I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
>folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices

The Akebono pads are $49.85 plus s/h.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/performance/basket.php?brandid=105&partid=12&m
akeid=29&modelid=435&year=2000

Randy Kalal - 19 Dec 2005 14:39 GMT
I purchased a complete set for the front of my GS400 at Lexus.  The kit
included shims, lub and the pads.  They were only $70.00 total.  If they are
similar to the originals, they last 50,000 miles.  Don't bother with after
market pads!

> I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
> folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices
Randy Kalal - 19 Dec 2005 14:39 GMT
I purchased a complete set for the front of my GS400 at Lexus.  The kit
included shims, lub and the pads.  They were only $70.00 total.  If they are
similar to the originals, they last 50,000 miles.  Don't bother with after
market pads!

> I have a 2000 ES300 Lexus build 10/99.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I can always buy them at Lexus for 3 times the price, but hopefully you
> folks know where I can buy equivalent (or the same) at much cheaper prices
 
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