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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / May 2006Lexus GS300 V Mercedes E320
In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the GS300? > In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between > the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the > GS300? The GS300 is made by a credible car company. The E320 is made by Chrysler. >In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between >the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the GS300? 1) Far better reliability. 2) Easier to use controls. 3) Cheaper to maintain. 4) Better gas mileage. The quality of the Merc has slowly been eroding over the past few years. I work with a bunch of attorney's and the Merc owners have started to notice that the Lexus owners aren't ever having to go back to the dealer for "issues". > In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between > the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the GS300? GS 300 is very overpriced and too small for normal people > The quality of the Merc has slowly been eroding over the past few years. I > work with a bunch of attorney's and the Merc owners have started to notice [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between > > the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the GS300? > GS 300 is very overpriced and too small for normal people I guess it is all relative as over here in the United Kingdom, we consider the GS300 a _huge_ vehicle. The car magazines lovingly call it a technobarge :)  SignaturePeter <X-Files Fan> Please Note: Emailed replies cc'd / bcc'd , containing HTML or attachments auto-binned as spam Uh, what do they call the E-class, then? Unreliable techno-barge? >> GS 300 is very overpriced and too small for normal people > > I guess it is all relative as over here in the United Kingdom, we consider > the GS300 a _huge_ vehicle. The car magazines lovingly call it a > technobarge :) Define: Normal People > Define: Normal People I'm 6'2 and 205 and never had an issue fitting into any Lexus comfortably. ditto, I'm 6'2" and 225 and I fit very nicely in my wife's new GS, just wondered what the previous poster considered to be "normal" I'm 6' 3" and I don't fit in the GS 300 SE-L. With the seat at its lowest height I still have to tilt my head to one side to fit under the sun-roof - not an ideal driving posture. (But I'm told I have a longer than *normal* back.) Which is why my wife and I are now looking at the SE. We discounted the E-class for being too volume market, plasticky and poor reliability ratings. The Jaguar S-Type 2.7 diesel is still in the hunt though. >In the market for a new luxury vehicle, I am trying to decide between >the above 2. What do you Lexus guys think is the advantage of the GS300? Do you mean other than far better reliability, better fuel economy, better control layout and luxury, and being cheaper to own with parts and service? How about better styling? Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". The E320 is a diesel, so its fuel economy is excellent. >Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". > >The E320 is a diesel, so its fuel economy is excellent. in the US few e320s are diesels, the overwhelming majority are gas engines jdoe wrote "in the U.S. few E320s are diesels". I'm sitting her with the latest Mercedes E class brochure. They make a E350 sedan E320 CDI sedan (diesel) E500 sedan E55 AMG sedan No gasoline engine E320. think he probably meant the E3's in general. Speaking from my area of the country the E350 is the only one I ever see on the road. Diesel takes a little more searching in my area is the reason I'm guessing. >jdoe wrote "in the U.S. few E320s are diesels". > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >No gasoline engine E320. ok you win, this model year the e 350 replaced the e320, nonetheless the amount of diesels sold in the US by MB is miniscule in comparrison to gas engines I think diesels will become more and more popular as the cost of fuel reaches ridiculous heights. In 07 Mercedes is introducing a new diesel engine that burns cleaner than gasoline. In addition in September in new clean burning diesel fuel will be mandatory in the U.S. I wonder if Lexus has a diesel in its future? >I think diesels will become more and more popular as the cost of fuel >reaches ridiculous heights. In 07 Mercedes is introducing a new diesel >engine that burns cleaner than gasoline. In addition in September in new >clean burning diesel fuel will be mandatory in the U.S. I wonder if >Lexus has a diesel in its future? gawd I hope so. I shudder to think that the only option for a luxury diesel is a Mercedes. >I think diesels will become more and more popular as the cost of fuel >reaches ridiculous heights. In 07 Mercedes is introducing a new diesel >engine that burns cleaner than gasoline. In addition in September in new >clean burning diesel fuel will be mandatory in the U.S. I wonder if >Lexus has a diesel in its future? They will make diesels if the market demands it. I hardly think there would be sufficient demand. They have answered with hybrids instead. This produces the conflicting demands of better performance and fuel economy that the U.S. market demands. >Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". > >The E320 is a diesel, so its fuel economy is excellent. I stand corrected. It doesn't have better fuel economy than the E320. Instead, it has better performance. In the case of the gasoline engine, the E350, it has better fuel economy. >>Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >In the case of the gasoline engine, the E350, it has better fuel >economy. if you are refering to the e320 cdi versus a gas e320 or e350, the statement about performance isn't correct. The e320 cdi is faster from a standing start than an e320 and equal to an e350 and they all top out at around the same speed because the high end is electronically limited. So to sum up, you get similar performance from a diesel with better fuel economy than a gas engine in addition diesels are a better performing engine with less maintanece issues and a longer lifespan than a gas engine >>>Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >performing engine with less maintanece issues and a longer lifespan >than a gas engine The better performance I was referring to was the Mercedes E320 diesel versus the Lexus GS300. The Lexus would beat it in the quarter mile. Let's be realistic we are comparing gas with gas. > Viperkiller wrote "better fuel economy". > > The E320 is a diesel, so its fuel economy is excellent. > Let's be realistic we are comparing gas with gas. And one thing not in short supply in this group is gas! Touché. >> Let's be realistic we are comparing gas with gas. > > And one thing not in short supply in this group is gas! |
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