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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / October 2006es350 tranny problem?
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem? Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again? Many thanks - > Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem? > > Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again? > > Many thanks - I own an ES350 and have not noticed a lag problem. However, since Lexus is more of a luxury brand, it is not nearly as responsive as an Infiniti. >> Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I own an ES350 and have not noticed a lag problem. However, since Lexus > is more of a luxury brand, it is not nearly as responsive as an Infiniti. Do you own an Infiniti car? If you do, as a return buyer, would you buy a Lexus or Infiniti? We own a ES300 and it has been good to us. Thanks - I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a transmission lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program fix in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site, the lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or mixuture. > Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem? > > Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again? > > Many thanks - I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350 is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to complain and not be content about something, there is always something wrong with anything on earth! I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level... they are still better than the other rivals. We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks. On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand... perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it. Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their own car! Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only one way to go... downhill!. I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind. > I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a transmission > lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Many thanks - are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we each drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus (or other automobile) problem 'a matter of attitude and perception?' Essentially, what you're saying is there is no such thing as reality, anything and everything is 'a matter of attitude and perception.' Alot of people have posted to this web site as well as the us.lexusownersclub.com complaining of the same problem with their lexuses up to, and including, the 2005 model year. Are they/we all hallucinating? I notice you stated that you have a 'brand new ES350 (sic)' which I assume you mean 2006? If so, then do you think that Lexus finally fixed the 'perceived' transmission lag problem in the '06s and that's why you don't have that problem? Just because you don't have/haven't had a problem experienced by other Lexus owners doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. After the dealer reprogrammed my '05 ES 330 computer, the lag is gone. I love the car and would consider buying Lexuses from now on. >I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350 > is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > >> > Many thanks - What some don't realize is that right after a reprogramming, or even after an oil change where the dealer resets the ECU, the transmission will behave more normally as it "learns" the driver's habits. It's after sufficient "learning" that the car will behave inconsistently. For the previous poster who cited JD Power, etc., he probably doesn't do any heavy rush hour stop-and-go type driving, which is where the problem rears its ugly head the worst. If you have the luxury of driving less aggressivtly, then he is right, you probably wouldn't notice the transmission "problem". > are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we each > drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus (or [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >>> > >>> > Many thanks - You are correct... I don't live in a metropolitan city. Can't stand the traffic, air pollution and waste of time driving to work and drive on the highway, or waiting in intersections. In my city, a rush hour usually last 5 minutes (or perhaps 10 minutes at the most) every morning and afternoon. Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never speed! I enjoy the ride and the feeling of having the best cars in the world. They are reliable cars, and I believe it and trust them. They never let me down ... rain, shine, snow, etc. End of the story. > What some don't realize is that right after a reprogramming, or even after > an oil change where the dealer resets the ECU, the transmission will behave [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > >>> > > >>> > Many thanks - >Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never >speed! That's where the misconception is: the tranny lag does not manifest itself by speeding! It's when the car is slowing down (say when nearing a red light) and then you step on the gas (as when the light unexpectedly turns green and before the car completely stops). Agreed, that's an accurate representation of its behavior. Add to that, when you do step on the gas after slowing down, the car often just doesn't know what to do. I've had it jerk heavily into gear or hesitate and do nothing. Frustrating. >>Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never >>speed! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > nearing a red light) and then you step on the gas (as when the light > unexpectedly turns green and before the car completely stops). You, my friend, are blessed. I sure would like to get off the interstate, and I sure don't like the thick smog here in Atlanta. > You are correct... I don't live in a metropolitan city. Can't stand the > traffic, air pollution and waste of time driving to work and drive on [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> >>> > >> >>> > Many thanks - Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it. Have driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues to no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration. Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it. I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find that people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments ar rave reviews. Just IMHO of course... Matt > I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350 > is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > > > Many thanks - And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding up too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and edmunds valuation of my 2002 ES300. > Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it. > Have [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> > > >> > > Many thanks - "Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on the market. And yes I happened to get mine for what I consider a good, not "bargain" price M > And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding up > too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and edmunds [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >> > > > >> > > Many thanks - I was disappointed the way the 2002 ES300 plummeted in resale value after 2 years of ownership. > "Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options > for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >> >> > > >> >> > > Many thanks - actually, the resale value I'm referring to is what you would get for the car if you traded it or sold it, not what Lexus would get when they put a CPO sticker on it and resell it at a premium. > "Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options > for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >> >> > > >> >> > > Many thanks - Matthew, I too have an 05 ES330 which I bought new. Unlike you, I wouldn't say I love it. I do have the tranny issue if you're speaking of the hesitation and/or lurch. The service rep at the dealership told me to drive it for several thousand miles and it should get better since the electronic tranmission adjusts to the owner's driving style. Well, I did that and it did get better, but, frankly, I don't know if if the car adjusted to me or I adjusted to the car. It wasn't perfect, so I brought it back to the dealer for the installation of the transmission software update. They checked the car and told me it already had the update and there was nothing wrong with the car. I told them it still jerks sometimes, but not as much. We then went for a test drive, and, wouldn't you know it, it didn't jerk. Frankly, the reason I bought a Lexus was so that I wouldn't have these kind of problems. Also, after finding out what the dealer charges for maintenance service, I am thinking of going elsewhere. I don't like paying $140 for an oil change, rotation, and routine inspection. And at some points, like 15,000 miles and 30,000, they really sock it to you. I believe I may have been better off buying a well eqipped, 6 cyl., Camry. Al > Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it. > Have [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> > > >> > > Many thanks - exactly the line of thought I have gone through. Although I like the 2007 Camry a whole bunch better than in 2002 when I bought my ES. > Matthew, I too have an 05 ES330 which I bought new. Unlike you, I > wouldn't say I love it. I do have the tranny issue if you're speaking of [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >>> > > >>> > > Many thanks - > exactly the line of thought I have gone through. When me and best friend Russell went out looking for young boys, we found the whole car to be an embarassing difficulty. I had to call my good friend Rock Strong in to help, lest I find myself without some tender young 'twink meat' to spend the night with. I'm diseased as many of you now know (sorry). But I'm still after a good time! No tranny will stop me from spreading my hepatitis! I didn't want it in the first place so I'm going to freely spread it to others the same way my wife gave it to me! Now for a few gluten free snacks, my stomach is *killing* me! Love and Kisses.. Stevie, Rocko, RS, Russell, et al... |
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