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Converting 2003 Lexus 470 to daylight running lights

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cabopeter - 14 Oct 2006 16:17 GMT
Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
Scott in Florida - 14 Oct 2006 19:20 GMT
>Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

Turn on the headlights in the daytime....

Cost?  Zero.....

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cabopeter - 15 Oct 2006 05:40 GMT
OK Let me explain this so it is a little bit simplier for you. Canada
since 1988 has had Day Light Running Lights built into every car sold
in canada, in order to import a US car into Canada. SO one has to
convert that car to there system. Cost Expensive, thought Zero
But thank you for those thoughts
Peter in Mexico

> >Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> >Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
>
> Turn on the headlights in the daytime....
>
> Cost?  Zero.....
Scott in Florida - 15 Oct 2006 14:07 GMT
>OK Let me explain this so it is a little bit simplier for you. Canada
>since 1988 has had Day Light Running Lights built into every car sold
>in canada, in order to import a US car into Canada. SO one has to
>convert that car to there system. Cost Expensive, thought Zero
>But thank you for those thoughts
>Peter in Mexico

Just swim across the border....cost zero....

On second thought stay in Mexico...

>> >Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>> >Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
>>
>> Turn on the headlights in the daytime....
>>
>> Cost?  Zero.....

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Scott in Florida

JoeSpareBedroom - 15 Oct 2006 16:26 GMT
> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

In the past, this web site has been suggested as a source of tech info:
http://www.techinfo.toyota.com/

You can buy one day access to tech manuals for $10.00 US. Since Toyota is
not a stupid company, my guess is that you'll be able to convert your Lexus
fairly easily. You might get unbelievably lucky and find it's a matter of
moving a relay to a different position in a socket panel, like moving the
jumpers on computer mother boards.
Esmail Bonakdarian - 15 Oct 2006 16:41 GMT
> You can buy one day access to tech manuals for $10.00 US. Since Toyota is
> not a stupid company, my guess is that you'll be able to convert your Lexus
> fairly easily. You might get unbelievably lucky and find it's a matter of
> moving a relay to a different position in a socket panel, like moving the
> jumpers on computer mother boards.

I know very little about cars, but since Toyota is only charging
$40 MSRP for the daylight running lights on the RAV4, I too would assume that
it's something easy to set (assuming the car was originally designed
with this in mind).

By the way, is it easy to override the DRLs? I'm an amateur astronomer,
and sometimes observe with others. The last thing I want to happen is
for my car lights to come on when I am leaving while others are still
observing.
cabopeter - 15 Oct 2006 18:39 GMT
Thanks Guys

> > You can buy one day access to tech manuals for $10.00 US. Since Toyota is
> > not a stupid company, my guess is that you'll be able to convert your Lexus
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> for my car lights to come on when I am leaving while others are still
> observing.
JoeSpareBedroom - 15 Oct 2006 20:54 GMT
>> You can buy one day access to tech manuals for $10.00 US. Since Toyota is
>> not a stupid company, my guess is that you'll be able to convert your
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> for my car lights to come on when I am leaving while others are still
> observing.

I have no idea. My 2002 Tacoma did not come with the feature. With a
schematic in hand, you should be able to find a way to install a switch.
QX - 16 Oct 2006 02:29 GMT
>> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
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>moving a relay to a different position in a socket panel, like moving the
>jumpers on computer mother boards.

Although this site http://www.lightsout.org/ is about defeating them,
you may be able to reverse engineer things to add them.

In addition, they tell how to add a switch to the system to control
the operation. http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#Toyota
Ken Shelton - 15 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

$39
webelectric.com
JoeSpareBedroom - 15 Oct 2006 20:56 GMT
>> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
>>
> $39
> webelectric.com

That web site's domain name is for sale. Try again?
Ken Shelton - 16 Oct 2006 23:04 GMT
>>>Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>>>Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
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>
> That web site's domain name is for sale. Try again?

http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm
Jay Somerset   < - 17 Oct 2006 00:10 GMT
I recently imported two cars to Canada from the US -- a 1997 Toyota Avalon,
and an 1998 Audi A6Q.  So I have gone through this process.

The "universal module" described on the webelectric website will not provide
DRLs that are legal in Canada.  Using the turn signal bulbs is not
compliant!

In Canada, the only legal DRLs use either headlights, or the fog lamps.  New
Lexus cars implement the DRLs using the high beam lights (at lower voltage).
They are interlocked with the normal headlights -- a legal requirement.

The AUDI conversion uses the fog lights -- again interlocked with the
parking/headlights.

For the Avalon, "hardwiring" the headlamp switch into the "auto" position
was deemed compliant (but this may be bending the actual requirmeent
slightly).

But don't be lured by the $39 "universal solution" -- it will not pass the
the inspection needed to register a "foreign" car in Canada.

Newer Lexus models by be amenable to conversion via computer settings or
module/relay changes, but you should first check with an actual Canadian
inspection station before trying a non-dealer solution.

> >>>Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> >>>Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
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> >
> http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm
mikestp - 21 Nov 2006 00:49 GMT
>>>> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>>>> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
> http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm

Sorry to tell you but those are not the same as Canadian daytime
running lights.  The headlights in Canada are the daytime running
lights.  However they are usually set at about 70% strength rather
than full illumination.  In my opinion the best way to do so is to
install a simple circuit to the battery posts with a fuse, and a
switch onto an oil pressure sensor. This way the lights come on
when the car has oil pressure.  When I install such an item, I
don't bother with a 70% ratio.  I just put the lights on 100%.
The running lights that are for sale in the website you mentioned
do not work the head lights.  They only illuminate the turn signal
lights.
  I suppose it's better than nothing but compared to the
headlights, it is almost nothing.
greg - 17 Oct 2006 02:34 GMT
> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

Start it up, put it in gear, notice that a 2003 LX470 comes with DRL
standard (source: pre-owned model library at lexus.com), and drive it
into Canada. ;)
Edgar - 18 Oct 2006 18:47 GMT
Mine already had them.   My 2000 did, my 2003 and my 2006 all have had
DRL's.  They suck, and there is no way to shut them off.   There was even a
recall about them being too bright or something.

> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
Bob - 18 Oct 2006 21:54 GMT
Think of them as being a safety feature for you. There is no doubt other
drivers are more inclined to notice vehicles with DLR's. Here in Canada it
is mandatory to have DLR. Motorcycles here usually drive with their high
beams on and that I find aggrevating.

> Mine already had them.   My 2000 did, my 2003 and my 2006 all have had
> DRL's.  They suck, and there is no way to shut them off.   There was even a
> recall about them being too bright or something.
>
> > Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
> > Daylight running lights for importing into canada?
JoeSpareBedroom - 18 Oct 2006 22:03 GMT
>> Mine already had them.   My 2000 did, my 2003 and my 2006 all have had
>> DRL's.  They suck, and there is no way to shut them off.   There was even
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> > Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>> > Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

> Think of them as being a safety feature for you. There is no doubt other
> drivers are more inclined to notice vehicles with DLR's. Here in Canada it
> is mandatory to have DLR. Motorcycles here usually drive with their high
> beams on and that I find aggrevating.

Consider yourself lucky. Here in the states, they believe the "loud pipes
save lives" crap, and the cops pretend noise ordinances don't apply to
motorcycles.
Noon-Air - 18 Oct 2006 23:47 GMT
I don't understand what the big deal is... I leave my head lights on
whenever I am driving.... day or night. Its a visibility and safety thing.

>>> Mine already had them.   My 2000 did, my 2003 and my 2006 all have had
>>> DRL's.  They suck, and there is no way to shut them off.   There was
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> save lives" crap, and the cops pretend noise ordinances don't apply to
> motorcycles.
JoeSpareBedroom - 19 Oct 2006 01:47 GMT
>I don't understand what the big deal is... I leave my head lights on
>whenever I am driving.... day or night. Its a visibility and safety thing.

Example: When I'm on a boat ramp, truck angled upward, pulling the boat out
at night, the lights will blind other people trying to back their trailers
onto the ramp in the dark. With the automatic running lights, you're
phuqued.
Sir F. A. Rien - 19 Oct 2006 00:43 GMT
>Mine already had them.   My 2000 did, my 2003 and my 2006 all have had
>DRL's.  They suck, and there is no way to shut them off.   There was even a
>recall about them being too bright or something.
>
>> Can anyone tell me what is involved in converted a USA LX 470 Lexus to
>> Daylight running lights for importing into canada?

There's a slight modification that will 'break' the command signal and leave
the DRLs off, provided it's 'broken' when you start the vehicle. They will
not return until you restart with the switch closed.

See Tacoma Mods.
 
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