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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / June 2007

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Stephen Horrillo - 15 Jun 2007 11:26 GMT
The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
had similar problems please contact me...
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX's Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX's certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn't fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn't addressed 5) visor wasn't replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General's Office and State Attorney's Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.

Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVETHIS@comcast.net

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Ray O - 15 Jun 2007 16:09 GMT
> The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
> had similar problems please contact me...
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>
> Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVETHIS@comcast.net

Instead of spamming a Lexus ng, try alt.autos.jaguar.
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Ray O
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Brian Jackson - 15 Jun 2007 18:42 GMT
.............. The following is from a complaint I just register with the
BBB. etc, etc.....

Why spam us proper car people with this?? ........... If you lived in the
home country of the car you have purchased you would know NEVER to buy this
'brand' due to the poor track record it has

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Brian Jackson - 15 Jun 2007 18:58 GMT
by 'home' I meant the origin of the marque ...... the UK ........... but
remember your driving a Ford now!

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stu - 15 Jun 2007 22:41 GMT
And you are driving a Toyota !
> by 'home' I meant the origin of the marque ...... the UK ........... but
> remember your driving a Ford now!
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Max - 16 Jun 2007 12:13 GMT
>And you are driving a Toyota !

..uh..you say that like it's a *bad* thing?

Besides, Jag's quality has gone UP to "shitty" since
Ford bought it.  I had a pre-Ford Jag.  You think there's
problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
stu - 16 Jun 2007 13:56 GMT
Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
Lexus or Toyota anywhere.

> >And you are driving a Toyota !
>
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> Ford bought it.  I had a pre-Ford Jag.  You think there's
> problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
Max - 16 Jun 2007 14:43 GMT
>Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
>Lexus or Toyota anywhere.

really?  

Of ALL of the manufacturers listed, the ONLY two manufacturers that
got a full 5 rating were Lexus and Porsche.

since you seem to have problems reading  your own references, let me
help you:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/quality-ratings

but then again JDPowers ratings for 07 models aren't based on customer
satisfaction but merely initial quality.  Consequently, fit and finish
as well as mechanical reliability won't be determined until next year
(for 07 models).  That's where the quality ratings actually make more
sense for the consumer.

And, that's where you see satisfaction ratings plummet for many
non-Japanese vehicles.

>> >And you are driving a Toyota !
>>
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>> Ford bought it.  I had a pre-Ford Jag.  You think there's
>> problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
stu - 18 Jun 2007 22:53 GMT
try  and you shall
see....http://www.jdpower.com/articles/article.aspx?ID=253

> >Yes. Check out JD Powers latest ratings on their web site. No mention of
> >Lexus or Toyota anywhere.
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> >> Ford bought it.  I had a pre-Ford Jag.  You think there's
> >> problems now.....you have no idea what "bad" really is.
Max - 19 Jun 2007 02:01 GMT
>try  and you shall
>see....http://www.jdpower.com/articles/article.aspx?ID=253

...I can't count how many times JD Powers rated a vehicle high without
ever putting a single mile on it.  You'd think by now they'd know
better than even mentioning an Audi.

And come on..a glorified Zephyr?  You're kidding me right?

Check back this time next year and see how they rate the same cars.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 15 Jun 2007 19:07 GMT
> > The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
> > had similar problems please contact me...
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>
> Instead of spamming a Lexus ng, try alt.autos.jaguar.

Instead of quoting full and replying with one line, go away.
GIga - 16 Jun 2007 04:00 GMT
>> > The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If
>> > you've
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>
> Instead of quoting full and replying with one line, go away.

Sounds like great advice ShagMoron.  Why don't you take it?
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 16 Jun 2007 13:14 GMT
> >> > The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If
> >> > you've
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> >
> Sounds like great advice ShagMoron.  Why don't you take it?

Go to dictionary.com and look up "sarcasm".
eddie - 16 Jun 2007 18:49 GMT
I agree with the original lister. His point about Carmax should be viewed as
a general point. Jags can be good cars. Lexus can have bad cars. The point
is the poor service from Carmax.

Rob

> The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
> had similar problems please contact me...
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>
> Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVETHIS@comcast.net
Max - 16 Jun 2007 18:57 GMT
>I agree with the original lister. His point about Carmax should be viewed as
>a general point. Jags can be good cars. Lexus can have bad cars. The point
>is the poor service from Carmax.
>
>Rob

..and..more on point, the OP was complaining about a *specific*
CARMAX.  It sounds more of a bad management problem there than
some kind of corporate policy.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 16 Jun 2007 20:58 GMT
> Jags can be good cars.

The odds of which are very low.

> Lexus can have bad cars.

The odds of which are very low.

If it's your $70,000, where do you place your bet?
eddie - 17 Jun 2007 04:25 GMT
Where do I put my $70 grand?

Not on this news group. If this was my only source I wouldn't by a Lexus or
a Jag, or a Ford or ..........

If it's your $70,000, where do you place your bet?
> The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you've
> had similar problems please contact me...
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>
> Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVETHIS@comcast.net
 
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