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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / January 2008Intermittant Electrical Problems
Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus brand owners as Lexus does not cover some of these problems with its new car warranty. One problem is that sometimes - and no, I can't nail "when" down - the right front bumper sensor goes off. Real irritating. And then after a couple of days it stops and runs properly. This is the famous detector that was doing this and Lexus said that it would not be covered by warranty. However, after taking it out of the shop, it ran properly. So it has reappeared a few times, for a couple of days each time. And now I have the automatic wiper taking a swipe or two at the windshield and then stopping. This wiper problem has surfaced after driving the car over roads that have been coated with salt brine, but none is visible on the windshield. Of course the wipers don't clean the cheapo glass right anyway, but the sensor area seems to be clear. Gosh, this sure is a lovely experience owing this car! The banging jerking tranny and the grinding, jerking brakes do provide some distraction from the electrical misbehaviour, though. The car is a 2006 430 LS ultra. Any ideas on the electrical problems? This car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise control would work. >Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the >electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise >control would work. Here is the real question: My current Lexus is my fifth, and I've been in and out of this newsgroup for at least 7 or 8 years, and it seems like you've been here since way back then. Every post you've ever made here is whining and complaining about the cost, service, quality and reliability of these cars. So how is it that you own an '06 Lexus, when you knew so long before that what horrible cars they are? It's pretty bad that things like this isn't covered under warranty!! So much for Lexus service. > Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the > electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise > control would work. > Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the > electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise > control would work. Getting the car washed will stop both problems.  SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the >> electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Getting the car washed will stop both problems. Occam's Razor! It must suck being you. > Whee! Intermittant electrical problems - the great joy of the > electricized and datacized car. This is especialy true for the Lexus [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise > control would work. Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a sign of a vehicle with a drowned history. Additionally, I thought "everything" was covered on a Lexus with a manufacturer's warranty. > It must suck being you. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> car did have to have its $7000 radar unit replaced so the cruise >> control would work. > Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, > but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a > sign of a vehicle with a drowned history. Intermittent electrical problems caused by being "drowned" are not a manufacturing defect and so are not covered by the manufacturer's warranty. > Additionally, I thought "everything" was covered on a > Lexus with a manufacturer's warranty. Only defects in materials or workmanship are covered by the Lexus warranty. Dirt on the sensors is not a manufacturing defect, and keeping the car clean is the owner's responsibility. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >> Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, >> but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > manufacturing defect and so are not covered by the manufacturer's > warranty. Yes, I certainly understand that. Perhaps I missed an earlier discussion, are you saying the dealer deemed the car water damaged/drowned history? >> Additionally, I thought "everything" was covered on a >> Lexus with a manufacturer's warranty. > > Only defects in materials or workmanship are covered by the Lexus > warranty. Dirt on the sensors is not a manufacturing defect, and keeping > the car clean is the owner's responsibility. Yes, I understand that also. But the OP seemed to be complaining about issues that I assumed were not just caused by dirt(aka confirmed/denied dirt cause). Per- haps I misunderstood. > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > Perhaps I missed an earlier discussion... Yes. Years of discussions. Do a search on "mcbrue" in this newsgroup and you'll find years of his whiney, stupid trolling. >>> Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, >>> but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > earlier discussion, are you saying the dealer deemed > the car water damaged/drowned history? No, The OP has never mentioned that the vehicle was drowned or submerged in water, but even if it were, it would not be covered by the automaker's warranty. >>> Additionally, I thought "everything" was covered on a >>> Lexus with a manufacturer's warranty. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > caused by dirt(aka confirmed/denied dirt cause). Per- > haps I misunderstood. The symptoms that the OP is complaining are most likely caused by dirt. Occasional, "phantom" wipes of the windshield wipers is caused by dirt over the windshield sensor that the sensor interprets as water. The windshield may appear to be clean, but dirt over the sensor, which is not visible from inside the car, would be wiped away if you get out of the car and take a look. I remedy this problem in my car by leaving the windshield wipers in the off position most of the time and in the auto position on those days with intermittent or continuous rain and snow. If the parking sensors are heavily obstructed with snow, ice, salt, dirt, etc., the parking system cannot tell the difference between that stuff and another object that is close by, so it beeps. If the obstruction keeps up with the car,, i.e., the "object" keeps up with the car as it is going down the road, the system knows that the sensor is obstructed and gives a message. Cleaning the sensors solves the problem. The OP's Lexus dealer probably washes his car after they have it in the shop, so the problems are gone until the car gets dirty again. SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) >>>> Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, >>>> but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > The OP's Lexus dealer probably washes his car after they have it in the > shop, so the problems are gone until the car gets dirty again. Thanks - David Z. and Ray O.... >>>>> Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, >>>>> but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Thanks - David Z. and Ray O.... You're welcome! SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > If the parking sensors are heavily obstructed with snow, ice, salt, dirt, > etc., the parking system cannot tell the difference between that stuff and > another object that is close by, so it beeps. If the obstruction keeps up > with the car,, i.e., the "object" keeps up with the car as it is going down > the road, the system knows that the sensor is obstructed and gives a > message. Cleaning the sensors solves the problem. I *think* mcfool lives in north Georgia, where it snowed yesterday. SignatureSt. John "If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything." -A. L. Yeah, I thought the bumper-to-bumper warranty should have covered it. But the dealer rejected it? Maybe Toyota should teach that dealer about "Lexus Care". > Are you the original owner? I don't know about Lexus, > but typically, intermittent electrical problems can be a > sign of a vehicle with a drowned history. > > Additionally, I thought "everything" was covered on a > Lexus with a manufacturer's warranty. I bought the car as a new car, but it had been driven 500 miles by some one else. Interesting. One of my lawyer friends did suggest a hungry young fellow who might want to pursue a class action suit, but I signed the papers purchasing the car with the 500 miles on it so it is my problem. Dealership owner declined to speak with me but he is a good god fearing christian and has a minister on staff to care for the spiritual needs of his sales staff according to articles in the paper. He has three or four other brand stores also. I purchased two ES 3nn s prior to this 06 LS430 Ultra. Problems with the ES were limited to one tranny which blew on the 1993, a known problem, and the bad brakes on the 2000. I always moved up in cars over my life, so I found the ES s to be great. But I bought a couple of Mercedes in between the ESs now owned by wife and this LS. The Mercedes are great cars, properly engineered as luxury cars, and designed for go. Unfortunately they break down. The Lexus is a sham luxury car, engineered for show, not go. They do not normaly break down. Lexus itself does not honor the warranty on the car's beeper thingies on the bumper - not a dealer problem. So I have not been posting and whining about the Lexus for several years, only since late 06. And my gripes have to do with the idiotic lack of proper engineering in the car - no tint in the windows except too narrow a band in the windshield, for example. I could go on for many pages listing this sort of problem. Now on to the important details: The sensors were all clean, so it is not something that simple, drat! The problems have cleared up now, so I can't just take it into the dealer and have them give it the wall job as it has fixed itself. It does not correlate with rain or snow storms either - drat again! I think the wiper could have been caused by salt on the windshield, but it was not visible to the nekid (thas naked to you yankees!) eye. |
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