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Gardis - 13 May 2008 01:45 GMT
Guys,
This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.

Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
OK?  Very confusing.

Now, getting back to the warranty. BMW has a 6 years warranty. The
first two years covers items that wear out, like brakes. But bumper to
bumper coverage for 6 years or 100K miles, whichever comes first.
Now, I have had the BMW dealer service my car exclusively. I'm one of
these "morons'  someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
having the dealer service the car. First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
computerized equipment to diagnose the problem and repair.  The old
days of changing the spark plugs are over.
And how much do you really think you are saving by going to a private
garage anyway. Don't you think they KNOW how much Lexus charges, and
they take may be 10% less.  Are you happy with that?  And you are
placing your warranty in jeopardy by using an unauthorized garage
anyway. I can't conceive of why someone would spend upwards of $40K on
a car, and then quibble about what the service costs are. If you
cannot afford the servicing of a BMW or Lexus, then you should drive a
Chevy.

I'm not quite sure I follow the bit about oil changes. I hate going to
Valvoline, they try to sell you extra services, and synthetic oil. I
am confused. I fear that if I pick the wrong oil, the car will stop
functioning. So I pay $69.99, and have BMW do it. I drive out with
peace of mind. Big deal, it cost me double. I'm not going broke over
it.

BMW re designed the X5 it's heavier and bigger. What sense does it
make with $4.00/gallon gas (have to use high test in a BMW), and they
give you a vehicle that gets less mileage, I don't know.  I'm leaning
toward the Lexus.

Gardis
Connecticut
Anonymous - 13 May 2008 08:15 GMT
I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.

At least all the Tahoe's we've owned never had a windshield
crack simply from stress, like our LS430 did. Of course the
dealer replaced the glass under the warranty campaign, but
I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
owned.

> Guys,
> This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
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> Gardis
> Connecticut
mcbrue - 14 May 2008 04:02 GMT
SHAME !!!! You shouldn't stress out your car like that !!!!! Just what
did you do to stress an LS430 anyway? I'll bet you said some bad
things about it and that stressed it out and it cracked its poor
little windshield !
johngdole@hotmail.com - 17 May 2008 05:06 GMT
Didn't you know, Lexus is very fragile!  ;)

> SHAME !!!! You shouldn't stress out your car like that !!!!! Just what
> did you do to stress an LS430 anyway? I'll bet you said some bad
> things about it and that stressed it out and it cracked its poor
> little windshield !
johngdole@hotmail.com - 18 May 2008 05:15 GMT
Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!

> I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.
>
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> I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
> owned.
01dyna - 18 May 2008 12:20 GMT
>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
>Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!

and at only $50k starting price!  What a deal!

>> I think you're right, you probably should just drive a Chevy.
>>
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>> I've never seen anything like that on *any* vehicle I've ever
>> owned.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 20 May 2008 03:40 GMT
hee hee hee I'm sure the 2008 Green Car of the Year. is worth every
penny with $4/gal gas prices and said soon to be $5/gal. "The 2008
Chevy Tahoe already has best-in-class fuel economy"

http://www.chevrolet.com/hybrid/

> >The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
> >Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!
>
> and at only $50k starting price!  What a deal!
DaveW - 20 May 2008 05:02 GMT
>hee hee hee I'm sure the 2008 Green Car of the Year. is worth every
>penny with $4/gal gas prices and said soon to be $5/gal. "The 2008
>Chevy Tahoe already has best-in-class fuel economy"

Best in class?  I believe that particular class is called
"Earth-f.cker".

>http://www.chevrolet.com/hybrid/

Another objective source from johnahole.

Chevy is better than Toyota - Look, Chevy says so! It must be true!
GIga - 21 May 2008 02:49 GMT
Well, I didn't think it was possible, but McBrew-jerk has been surpassed.

John -- you win.  You are now officially the biggest a.shole on this group!

(I particularly like your "Earth-f.cker" rating on the Tahoe Dave... so
true.  So true.)

GIga

>>hee hee hee I'm sure the 2008 Green Car of the Year. is worth every
>>penny with $4/gal gas prices and said soon to be $5/gal. "The 2008
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>
> Chevy is better than Toyota - Look, Chevy says so! It must be true!
DaveW - 18 May 2008 20:35 GMT
>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
>Toyota Camry 2.4L 4-cyl!!!

And 9 mpg less highway. Once again, it's interesting how you cherry
pick your statistics.

So, if your idea of "better value"  is better fuel economy, that same
Tahoe is a better value than most Mercedes and BMWs too, isn't it?

And since you love to cut and paste articles here in a Lexus newsgroup
about how well Mercedes are selling, would you argue that a Camry is
really a much better car than any Mercedes or BMW, since they sell
much more of them?

What do you drive, john?
GIga - 20 May 2008 02:59 GMT
Yeah!  What DO you drive, John??

GIga

>>Sure he can get a new Chevy. It would be a better value than a Lexus.
>>The new Tahoe hybrid 6.0L V8 can get about the same CITY MPG as a
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>
> What do you drive, john?
Lurfys Maw - 14 May 2008 22:11 GMT
>Guys,
>This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
>impossible to know who is saying what. So I'm starting a new thread.

Hint: Many of the speakers don't know what they are saying. ;-)

>Please sign your names after your posts so we know who is speaking,
>OK?  Very confusing.
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>these "morons'  someone spoke of that values "peace of mind" when
>having the dealer service the car.

Hi, fellow moron. I knew I wasn;t the only one. ;-)

>First of all, a Lexus or BMW is a
>highly technical vehicle that require expertise, training, and
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>Gardis
>Connecticut
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 14 May 2008 23:12 GMT
> Hi, fellow moron. I knew I wasn;t the only one. ;-)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to
include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous
to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only
reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an
opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large
groups.
johngdole@hotmail.com - 17 May 2008 04:55 GMT
Yeah I think you're right. Just get a Toyota Lexus. It's the excellent
Buick that GM couldn't build.

> Guys,
> This thread is getting too long and complicated. It's virtually
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> Gardis
> Connecticut
 
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