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Jeff@unknown.com - 09 Jun 2008 08:46 GMT
I believe Lexus uses standard oil for its 5,000 mile oil changes on GS 350
cars.  Is there a problem with using synthetic oil instead (at say Jiffy
lube or other non-Lexus garage) and extending the oil change period to 7,500
miles?  Would that mess up the warranty?

Jeff
OldMan - 09 Jun 2008 23:15 GMT
I often wonder why US supplied cars have a much lower oil change interval,
as indicated by manufacturer, than those supplied in Europe.
That includes vehicles supplied with 3 year 90,000 warranty & those supplied
with unlimited milage in the 3 year period.
My last Lexus had a 9,000 miles interval, later models 10,000 / 20,000?
So far I have seen no explanation

>I believe Lexus uses standard oil for its 5,000 mile oil changes on GS 350
>cars.  Is there a problem with using synthetic oil instead (at say Jiffy
>lube or other non-Lexus garage) and extending the oil change period to
>7,500 miles?  Would that mess up the warranty?
>
> Jeff
Wayne - 09 Jun 2008 23:26 GMT
Check out Amsoil Synthetic Oil, it goes for 1 year or 25,000 miles
whichever comes first. They are the only synthetic oil that goes that
long. I been using it for many years in all my cars including both my
Lexus'es.

Wayne

> I often wonder why US supplied cars have a much lower oil change interval,
> as indicated by manufacturer, than those supplied in Europe.
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>> Jeff
Jeff@unknown.com - 10 Jun 2008 14:33 GMT
Yes, but my question is if doing so and lengthening the oil change interval
would invalidate the Lexus warranty.

Jeff

> Check out Amsoil Synthetic Oil, it goes for 1 year or 25,000 miles
> whichever comes first. They are the only synthetic oil that goes that
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>>> Jeff
Wayne - 11 Jun 2008 20:43 GMT
No! Amsoil far exceeds all car manufactures.

Wayne

> Yes, but my question is if doing so and lengthening the oil change interval
> would invalidate the Lexus warranty.
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>>>> Jeff
Ray O - 12 Jun 2008 05:41 GMT
> No! Amsoil far exceeds all car manufactures.
>
> Wayne

Only Amsoil oil of the proper viscosity meets API specification SM meets or
exceeds the automaker's specifications.  If the oil does not meet API SM
specifications, then it does not meet the automaker's warranty requirements
for the engine and related systems.  Also, the automaker's recommended
maintenance intervals need to be followed for warranty coverage.

Of course, if Wayne or Amsoil is going to provide warranty coverage for the
engine, then the vehicle owner can follow Amsoil's recommendations.
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Wayne - 15 Jun 2008 01:29 GMT
Amsoil will back up all their products. Remember the Magnuson-Moss Act?
 I suggest that you do some research.

Wayne

>> No! Amsoil far exceeds all car manufactures.
>>
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> Of course, if Wayne or Amsoil is going to provide warranty coverage for the
> engine, then the vehicle owner can follow Amsoil's recommendations.
Wayne - 15 Jun 2008 01:33 GMT
Access to the complete Magnuson-Moss Act is available on the Internet by
key words Magnuson-Moss Act or Federal Trade Commission

Wayne
Wayne - 09 Jun 2008 23:27 GMT
Check out Amsoil Synthetic Oil, it goes for 1 year or 25,000 miles
whichever comes first. They are the only synthetic oil that goes that
long. I been using it for many years in all my cars including both my
Lexus'es.

Wayne

> I often wonder why US supplied cars have a much lower oil change interval,
> as indicated by manufacturer, than those supplied in Europe.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Jeff
01dyna - 09 Jun 2008 23:40 GMT
>Check out Amsoil Synthetic Oil, it goes for 1 year or 25,000 miles
>whichever comes first. They are the only synthetic oil that goes that
>long. I been using it for many years in all my cars including both my
>Lexus'es.
>
>Wayne

we read you the first time. ;-)
ACAR - 19 Jun 2008 12:06 GMT
> I often wonder why US supplied cars have a much lower oil change interval,
> as indicated by manufacturer, than those supplied in Europe.
> That includes vehicles supplied with 3 year 90,000 warranty & those supplied
> with unlimited milage in the 3 year period.
> My last Lexus had a 9,000 miles interval, later models 10,000 / 20,000?
> So far I have seen no explanation

Aren't they using synthetic oil in Europe?

Oil analysis posted at bobistheoilguy.com doesn't bode well for that
20,000 mile oil change interval.
Ray O - 10 Jun 2008 05:33 GMT
>I believe Lexus uses standard oil for its 5,000 mile oil changes on GS 350
>cars.  Is there a problem with using synthetic oil instead (at say Jiffy
>lube or other non-Lexus garage) and extending the oil change period to
>7,500 miles?  Would that mess up the warranty?
>
> Jeff

There is no problem with using synthetic motor oil as long as it meets
current API specification SM.   Using motor oil that does not meet API SM or
extending the oil change period to 7,500 miles would only mess up the
warranty on your motor and emissions system, including the catalytic
converter, not the rest of the car, and only if the non-specified oil caused
a problem.
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Jeff@unknown.com - 10 Jun 2008 14:36 GMT
So, using and synthetic oil and lengthening the oil change period would set
me up for arguments should I later need to use the warranty for engine or
catalyst repairs......

Jeff

>> I believe Lexus uses standard oil for its 5,000 mile oil changes on
>> GS 350 cars.  Is there a problem with using synthetic oil instead
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> the catalytic converter, not the rest of the car, and only if the
> non-specified oil caused a problem.
Ray O - 11 Jun 2008 04:53 GMT
> So, using and synthetic oil and lengthening the oil change period would
> set me up for arguments should I later need to use the warranty for engine
> or catalyst repairs......
>
> Jeff

Yes it would.
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OldMan - 11 Jun 2008 23:55 GMT
But why the difference in intervals for US & EU vehicles???

>> So, using and synthetic oil and lengthening the oil change period would
>> set me up for arguments should I later need to use the warranty for
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>
> Yes it would.
Ray O - 12 Jun 2008 05:37 GMT
> But why the difference in intervals for US & EU vehicles???

I don't know, but since if the vehicle is operated in the U.S., then one
should follow the maintenance intervals for U.S. vehicles if one wishes to
have the factory warrant the vehicle in the U.S.

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Wayne - 15 Jun 2008 01:24 GMT
Because the US car manufactures and the oil companies want to sell more
oil! It's a known fact. The eu has always had longer oil drains then us
because they pay far more for their gas and oil.

Wayne

> But why the difference in intervals for US & EU vehicles???
>
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>>>
>> Yes it would.
ACAR - 19 Jun 2008 12:03 GMT
On Jun 9, 3:46 am, "J...@unknown.com" <JeffMa...@orthohelp.com> wrote:
> I believe Lexus uses standard oil for its 5,000 mile oil changes on GS 350
> cars.  Is there a problem with using synthetic oil instead (at say Jiffy
> lube or other non-Lexus garage) and extending the oil change period to 7,500
> miles?  Would that mess up the warranty?
>
> Jeff

Mobil 1 Synthetic oil for the GS350 is all API SM rated so that's not
an issue. An engine oil related issue caused by using a 7500 change
interval with Mobil 1 is HIGHLY unlikely. My Toyota dealer sells Mobil
1 and they suggest a 7500 oil change interval. But if want zero risk,
change it every 5000.
 
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