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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / August 2008

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Motortrend 07 Lexus LS 460 Long Term Test Drive

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johngdole@hotmail.com - 05 Aug 2008 08:14 GMT
As we spent more time behind the LS's wheel, however, our admiration
shifted to dissatisfaction, back to the days of December 2007.
Complaints ranged from minor grumbles ("Side mirrors are too small")
to major grievances ("If you're a driver, you'll just find the whole
experience numb and uninvolving. There is no emotion to this car.
None"), all of which made us wish Lexus had produced more of a
driver's car than a curtailed limousine. "Too soft" and "floaty" were
common notebook entries, as was, "more wind noise than I expected." In
fact, at highway speed, the LS seemed to suffer from more wind clatter
than the lower-level GS 460. And lest we forget, the LS's gimmicky
Advanced Parking Guidance system -- you know, the one in which the car
parks itself -- was deemed clever when trying to impress friends, but
frustrating to use ("I've tried it twice and it's either scared me a
little or just refused to work at all") and unrealistic in purpose
("The real-life practicality of this feature is non-existent").

From the logbook

"When dodging in and out of traffic, the LS 460's relatively loose
steering and softened suspension made me feel quite detached from the
road."
- Mike Suggett

"I never thought eight gears were necessary until I had them, and then
I realized that more is merrier, more is smoother, more is luxury --
especially when Lexus is doing the engineering."
- Brian Vance

"My mileage for the round trip to Arizona was 25 mpg and the range is
simply extraordinary -- it appears to be about 530 miles on the
highway."
- Kim Reynolds

"The eight-speed auto noticeably hunts between ratios if you drive it
in power mode. It's not smooth, and if you come off the gas, then get
back on it lightly, you can fool the transmission into making an
unseemly thump."
- Angus MacKenzie

Full article at:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0809_2007_lexus_ls460_verdict/in
dex.html

johngdole@hotmail.com - 05 Aug 2008 08:17 GMT
Sounds like a Buick?

On Aug 5, 12:14 am, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> As we spent more time behind the LS's wheel, however, our admiration
> shifted to dissatisfaction, back to the days of December 2007.
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> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0809_2007_lexus_ls460...
stuart - 08 Aug 2008 17:18 GMT
Buick is far better....
Sounds like a Buick?

On Aug 5, 12:14 am, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> As we spent more time behind the LS's wheel, however, our admiration
> shifted to dissatisfaction, back to the days of December 2007.
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0809_2007_lexus_ls460...
Wayne - 08 Aug 2008 20:21 GMT
PLEASE explain why Buick is BETTER!!!

 Buick is far better....
> Sounds like a Buick?
>
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>> http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0809_2007_lexus_ls460...
stuart - 16 Aug 2008 00:41 GMT
Drive one and you will see. Lucerne is superb...

> PLEASE explain why Buick is BETTER!!!
>
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> >>
> >> Full article at:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0809_2007_lexus_ls460...
johngdole@hotmail.com - 17 Aug 2008 20:04 GMT
Yeah, Motortrend was right, that's precisely the impression I got
driving the LS. Nice car but no soul. No wonder Lexus July car sales
was down 27.2%.

But then, Toyota designed the Lexus line with American boat ride in
mind:

"Americans prize comfort, reliability and attentive service -- the
hallmarks of the Lexus brand. The Japanese revere heritage. Europeans
want innovation above all, says Christoph Stürmer, Frankfurt, Germany-
based auto analyst for Global Insight and co-author of the book
'Premium Power' about the German luxury car industry."

>("If you're a driver, you'll just find the whole
> experience numb and uninvolving. There is no emotion to this car.
> None"), all of which made us wish Lexus had produced more of a
> driver's car than a curtailed limousine. "Too soft" and "floaty" were
> common notebook entries

, as was, "more wind noise than I expected." In
> fact, at highway speed, the LS seemed to suffer from more wind clatter
> than the lower-level GS 460. And lest we forget, the LS's gimmicky
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> little or just refused to work at all") and unrealistic in purpose
> ("The real-life practicality of this feature is non-existent").
DaveW - 17 Aug 2008 20:49 GMT
>Yeah, Motortrend was right, that's precisely the impression I got
>driving the LS. Nice car but no soul. No wonder Lexus July car sales
>was down 27.2%.

Thanks for all your objective input here, john.

By the way, what do you drive?
 
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