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Car Forum / Lexus Cars / November 2004

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ES300 shifts early when cold

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Rog - 10 Nov 2004 01:47 GMT
I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to shift too
early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring it and it won't
go past 3-4k rpm until it upshifts.   When warm, it acts fine but it always
shifts about 1k rpm before redline begines.  I had a 97 Camry V6 before and
I don't remember it doing this.

Any ideas?
RR - 10 Nov 2004 03:48 GMT
>I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to shift too
>early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring it and it won't
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>
>Any ideas?

This would happen if you're not getting enough power.  Have you had
a tune up lately?  But it would have to be REALLY out of tune.

I had similar problems twice and it turned out to be bad spark plug
wires the first time and a broken rotor cap the second.
Rog - 10 Nov 2004 05:43 GMT
It had a full tuneup around 1000 miles ago. Unfortunately this car has
ignition coils so they should be good. Otherwise when warm, it runs evenly
and has the power it should.

> >I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to shift too
> >early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring it and it won't
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> I had similar problems twice and it turned out to be bad spark plug
> wires the first time and a broken rotor cap the second.
Chris Aseltine - 10 Nov 2004 04:21 GMT
> I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to shift
> too early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring it and it
> won't go past 3-4k rpm until it upshifts.   When warm, it acts fine but
> it always shifts about 1k rpm before redline begines.  I had a 97 Camry
> V6 before and I don't remember it doing this.

Perhaps the ECU/TCU are trying to prevent excessive engine wear by
preventing high RPM operation before the engine is warmed up?
Philip - 10 Nov 2004 05:47 GMT
> I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to
> shift too early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Any ideas?

It's called NORMAL operation.  My 2003 Corolla does the same thing too.
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dulles - 10 Nov 2004 14:22 GMT
My 1994 ES300 does the same thing.  Always has.  Prolly the fluid in the
tranny warming up.

-d
> I recently purchased a 1997 ES300 and I noticed it always tends to shift too
> early when it's not fully warmed up. You could be flooring it and it won't
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Any ideas?
 
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