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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / June 2004

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Peter A. Kaufman - 25 Jun 2004 18:05 GMT
Hi
I am interesting in becoming a better street driver in my '01, and was
wondering if anyone has attended any schools that they could recommend.  I
am not too interested in track driving.  I am in central PA and would prefer
somewhere not too far away.
Thanks

Peter
Lanny Chambers - 25 Jun 2004 19:13 GMT
> I am interesting in becoming a better street driver in my '01, and was
> wondering if anyone has attended any schools that they could recommend.  I
> am not too interested in track driving.

If you mean you want to become a safer driver at a sedate pace, any
defensive driving class will help. If you mean you want to learn
performance techniques you can use on the street, then a track school is
indeed the best place to go, with an autocross school running a distant
second.

In fact, I recommend both types of instruction. Track experience will
help you understand the principles of defensive driving as more than
arbitrary rules.

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Leon van Dommelen - 26 Jun 2004 03:59 GMT
>> I am interesting in becoming a better street driver in my '01, and was
>> wondering if anyone has attended any schools that they could recommend.  I
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>help you understand the principles of defensive driving as more than
>arbitrary rules.

Are there any aggressive driving schools you know off? My aggressive
driving is fair, but certainly could be improved.

Leon

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Lanny Chambers - 26 Jun 2004 05:07 GMT
> Are there any aggressive driving schools you know off? My aggressive
> driving is fair, but certainly could be improved.

Buy a pickup truck. Aggression seems to be included as standard
equipment.

Or maybe you don't need the whole truck, just the cowboy hat.

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Daniel Nguyen - 27 Jun 2004 17:11 GMT
I stand corrected. Seems that I'm not aggressive enough since I own a 93
miata; a 01 Ford Excursion Diesel, and a 99 Ford F350 crewcab DRW long bed
Diesel. I actually have superchip 85hp chip, 4" exhaust turbo back, and
propane injection on my F350 but I haven't run over anyone yet !!! Maybe I
need to get more aggressive since I own a pickup truck........

> > Are there any aggressive driving schools you know off? My aggressive
> > driving is fair, but certainly could be improved.
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>
> Or maybe you don't need the whole truck, just the cowboy hat.
Thomas Misek - 27 Jun 2004 19:46 GMT
Just get a cowboy hat!

> I stand corrected. Seems that I'm not aggressive enough since I own a 93
> miata; a 01 Ford Excursion Diesel, and a 99 Ford F350 crewcab DRW long bed
> Diesel. I actually have superchip 85hp chip, 4" exhaust turbo back, and
> propane injection on my F350 but I haven't run over anyone yet !!! Maybe I
> need to get more aggressive since I own a pickup truck........

> > > Are there any aggressive driving schools you know off? My aggressive
> > > driving is fair, but certainly could be improved.
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Gus - 26 Jun 2004 05:35 GMT
> If you mean you want to become a safer driver at a sedate pace, any
> defensive driving class will help. If you mean you want to learn
> performance techniques you can use on the street, then a track school is
> indeed the best place to go, with an autocross school running a distant
> second.

I agree with Lanny on this one except that all defensive driving classes are
not created equal.  I've attended a couple here in the states that were not
very effective.  In comparison I attended an excellent course sponsored by
my employer while working in England (it was required of all employees prior
to driving company vehicles).

Anyway, I signed up for the course and showed up expecting the typical
company course (e.g., 30+ people sitting in a room for the day). However, I
was very surprised to find that the class consisted of me and one over
student and we were to spend the day driving with the instructor (e.g., we
took turns driving while the other sat in the back seat and observed).  I
learned more in that one day than in all other driving courses combined and
acquired a number of safe driving habits that stick with me now 10 years
later.  The best part of the course however was yet to come.  When we
returned at the end of the day, we were instructed to report to a local test
track in a couple of days for skid pad and obstacle driving.

The skid pad was a large parking lot surrounded by tire barriers.  The fun
began when they sprayed the smooth surface with oil and water and then sent
us each out one at a time in an old Ford Escort with very bald tires.  I had
a lot of fun, but got yelled at by the instructors for not being aggressive
enough on the skid pad.  I guess the habits from all those years driving on
snow and ice in Wisconsin were just to ingrained in me not to automatically
correct for a spin.

Gus (91 BRG)
Iva - 25 Jun 2004 19:24 GMT
> Hi
> I am interesting in becoming a better street driver in my '01, and was
> wondering if anyone has attended any schools that they could recommend.  I
> am not too interested in track driving.  I am in central PA and would prefer
> somewhere not too far away.
> Thanks

Well, with psu.edu in your e-mail address, I think I know
*exactly* where in central PA you're located! <g>  Class of '73
here.

The Delaware Valley Miata Club is holding driving school at
Pocono Raceway on July 19 and 20.  I'm pretty sure that it's
filled but you might want to check with them - or even show up
just to watch and get some pointers.  Their website is at
www.delval.org and the contact person is Jeff Jury.

Some other clubs also run track days at Pocono - you might check
the Pocono track website and see if there's more info there.
That's at www.poconoraceway.com

Iva & Belle.)
'90B Classic Red.)
#3 winkin' Miata
SuperGardener - 25 Jun 2004 19:32 GMT
> > Hi
> > I am interesting in becoming a better street driver in my '01,
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> '90B Classic Red.)
> #3 winkin' Miata

Hey, Don't ask me. I can't even drive :-d LOL

Dave.
 
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