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Taco - 09 Jul 2004 04:01 GMT
I just installed a Robbins Glass zipper Sunfast top.  It was a lot of work
to install. It looks great except for wrinkles over each door. They are not
too bad.  I know this is a fairly common problem. Questions: Will the top
shrink to fit?  If there is an adjustment to be made and how is it done?

Thanks in advance
John
KWS - 09 Jul 2004 06:23 GMT
Can't see your wrinkles from here, John, but I suggest that you wait a day
or two (or three) before doing anything about them. This, I believe, is what
Robbins calls "conditioning". Let the sun do it's magic on the wrinkles.
That's what I did and it resolved itself in about a day.

Best,

Ken

> I just installed a Robbins Glass zipper Sunfast top.  It was a lot of work
> to install. It looks great except for wrinkles over each door. They are not
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> Thanks in advance
> John
Taco - 10 Jul 2004 04:22 GMT
All this talk about sun.  I live in Seattle.  When the sun is out, the top
is down.

Thanks
John

> Can't see your wrinkles from here, John, but I suggest that you wait a day
> or two (or three) before doing anything about them. This, I believe, is what
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> > Thanks in advance
> > John
Ken Lyons - 11 Jul 2004 01:42 GMT
> I just installed a Robbins Glass zipper Sunfast top.  It was a lot of work
> to install. It looks great except for wrinkles over each door.

I was concerned about a few wrinkles on the Robbins no-zip glass window top
I installed on the '90. Then I notice the same wrinkles on my '97's OEM top.
Even the originals ain't perfect.
Signature

Ken Lyons '97 Brilliant Black/'90 Classic Red
Inside the Beltway
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KWS - 11 Jul 2004 23:43 GMT
So a little time has passed. How does it look?

Ken

> I just installed a Robbins Glass zipper Sunfast top.  It was a lot of work
> to install. It looks great except for wrinkles over each door. They are not
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> Thanks in advance
> John
Taco - 12 Jul 2004 05:06 GMT
Its still a little loose above the door.  I live in Seattle.  Its only sat
in the sun (~80F) for one day.  That helped a little.  I will let it cook
for a couple of 90 deg days before I lose hope.  Its ok the way it is, just
not perfect.  The sunfast  material looks great.  Not being shiny like vinyl
it kind of hides it.

> So a little time has passed. How does it look?
>
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> > Thanks in advance
> > John
BRUCE HASKIN - 12 Jul 2004 05:43 GMT
Hay Taco,

You are going to let it "cook" in 90 Deg's. ?????
You live in "Seattle Washington" ?????????
You must have a very large oven at your house!
I live in Seattle and it might get to 90 sometime this summer, but to
let it "cook" ?  Wow ! Be sure to let me know when that is going to
happen so I can water my grass the night before.  :-)   We have some
warm days up here, but "days" at 90? ( You might want to try a heat gun
while you are waiting.

     Bruce     RED   '91  (It's summer in Seattle. 68 deg's to day)
:-)
John Matava - 13 Jul 2004 03:24 GMT
Come on you know better than that.  There will be 3 maybe even  4,  90 deg
days this summer.  I remember one time when I was a kid it hit a hundred!
Outside!

Water your grass??  Futile. Waste of water.  Grass dies in Seattle when it
hits 80.  Brown is beautiful.

T.

> Hay Taco,
>
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>       Bruce     RED   '91  (It's summer in Seattle. 68 deg's to day)
> :-)
pws - 13 Jul 2004 03:54 GMT
> Come on you know better than that.  There will be 3 maybe even  4,  90 deg
> days this summer.  I remember one time when I was a kid it hit a hundred!
> Outside!
>
> Water your grass??  Futile. Waste of water.  Grass dies in Seattle when it
> hits 80.  Brown is beautiful.

This is our second mild summer (so far)in a row in central Texas, but 90
is what I am considering as mild. We had a summer a few years back that
had 100+ degree days for over 30 days in a row. The lowest it would get
at night during this time was 85 degrees.

I need to visit the Seattle area sometime, I have never been there but I
have considered it as a place to live based on what I have heard about
it. Right now, though, I am considering a job possibility in Knoxville,
TN. From what I have heard, there are some decent roads to drive just
south of Knoxville along the TN/NC border, "Trail of the Wagon" or
"Neals Lap" or something like that. :-)

Pat
'96M
BRUCE HASKIN - 13 Jul 2004 04:36 GMT
Hee, hee, hee. Pat,
This is :-)  not a good place to live :-) ! It rains ALL of the time,
the clouds are low and gray 300 days a year, we grow moss on our feet
and webs between our toes because it is so wet all of the time!!!!!!
The grass never turns brown and we need to put moss killer on it so that
the slugs will not live in it. It only gets to about 45 to 50 deg's all
year long and we never have nice summers !

Today the news said it got to 83 deg's but they just say that so we will
feel better.

There are no jobs and the housing is just very poor.
You can pay $750,000 to $3,000,000 for just a shack.
--------------------------
THIS is what we tell all of the Calif. people that want to move up here.
:-)  :-)  :-)  !!!

But,  The other 65 days of the year are just out of this world. (come
visit us. If it's a nice day, you will not want to leave. We have some
super Miata roads and the views are fantastic !!!!)

Yes, it was over 80 today. The top was down and the air was fresh. Being
retired, I get to enjoy all of it.

     Bruce     RED    '91
pws - 14 Jul 2004 23:25 GMT
> Hee, hee, hee. Pat,
> This is :-)  not a good place to live :-) ! It rains ALL of the time,
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>
>       Bruce     RED    '91

I have to admit, the rain would be a bummer for me, but I do want to
visit California, Oregon and Washington, along with Canada and Alaska.
My trips keep taking me eastward for some reason, the furthest west I
have been is Las Vegas.
Then of course there are the endless international places that I want to
see, but I am going to have to have a substantial income increase for
that. At least Per should be able to hook me up with a company that
rents miatas if I stopped in Denmark first. ;-)

Pat
'96M

Pat
'96M
BRUCE HASKIN - 15 Jul 2004 05:26 GMT
Pat,
All kidding aside, we do not get that much rain here in Seattle. It just
looks like it should be raining. The local joke is, "If you can see the
mountain, it is GOING TO to rain. If you can't see the mountain, IT IS
raining! " :-)  We do have many "gray", overcast days and that gets to
some people. We do have a lot of nice "green" to show for the "damp"
weather, but it is very mild year round. It has been in the low 80's
this last week or so and the locals are bitching about the "HOT'
weather! Come on out to the Northwest, (Aug. and Sept. Plus the first
two weeks in Oct. is the best time. You will love the back roads.  

     Bruce     RED    '91
Generic - 15 Jul 2004 06:44 GMT
> Pat,
> All kidding aside, we do not get that much rain here in Seattle. It just
> looks like it should be raining.

Lots in terms of inches of rain, no.  Lots in terms of days of drizzle,
yes!!!!!   You don't need an umbrella most of the time, but you'll get damp.

> some people. We do have a lot of nice "green" to show for the "damp"
> weather, but it is very mild year round.

Hard to beat the N. California coast in this regard.  It too is green (just
next to the coast) but gets has many more sunny days.  They get winter
storms but the night/morning summer fog does it job for the plants.

>It has been in the low 80's
> this last week or so and the locals are bitching about the "HOT'
> weather!

You adapt!  I used to live in a coastal CA town where the temps ranged from
the 40s to mid 80s.  I knew a guy from Mississipi who joked about CA weather
wimps until he lived there a year.  Then he had the same complaints.

-John
Dana Myers - 15 Jul 2004 07:49 GMT
>>Pat,
>>All kidding aside, we do not get that much rain here in Seattle. It just
>>looks like it should be raining.

> Lots in terms of inches of rain, no.  Lots in terms of days of drizzle,
> yes!!!!!   You don't need an umbrella most of the time, but you'll get damp.

A friend of mine is at AT&T Wireless in Redmond.  After the
Cingular deal was announced, I sought to console him with
"it'll be dryer in Atlanta".  A few minutes with Weather.com
quickly indicated otherwise - Atlanta gets twice the annual
rainfall that Seattle does.

>>some people. We do have a lot of nice "green" to show for the "damp"
>>weather, but it is very mild year round.
>
> Hard to beat the N. California coast in this regard.  It too is green (just
> next to the coast) but gets has many more sunny days.  They get winter
> storms but the night/morning summer fog does it job for the plants.

Yes, indeed.  You go just a few miles inland and the hills
turn from green to golden, but you still get overnight fog/chill,
usually 30F cooler at night... and several inland valleys get
this... places like Dry Creek, Sonoma's Valley of the Moon,
Napa, Suisun, Santa Maria... places where great wine is
made.

>>It has been in the low 80's
>>this last week or so and the locals are bitching about the "HOT'
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> the 40s to mid 80s.  I knew a guy from Mississipi who joked about CA weather
> wimps until he lived there a year.  Then he had the same complaints.

I spent a week in Southern Mississippi last month.  It was never over
92F but it was never under 76F and it thundershowered 50% of the time,
sometimes torrentially.  If someone from there had the audacity to
complain about our California weather, I'd buy that person a ticket
back to Mississippi and give them a ride the the bus station.

Of course, these are the same people that complain about the
danger of earthquakes in California when Mississippi gets
hammered by hurricanes far more frequently...

;-)

Dana
Dana Myers - 14 Jul 2004 20:17 GMT
> Right now, though, I am considering a job possibility in Knoxville,
> TN. From what I have heard, there are some decent roads to drive just
> south of Knoxville along the TN/NC border, "Trail of the Wagon" or
> "Neals Lap" or something like that. :-)

I tell ya, I've been to Eastern TN two or three times for family
vacation.  We had a relative that lived in Knoxville that made
her house available to us while she was out of town, and we
spent a week or two there, probably in 1995.  We loved the town,
we loved the proximity to the National Park, etc.  Eastern TN
was A-OK, we went back a few years later, this time we stayed
in a motel by Pigeon Forge for a bit, then we stayed over
in the quieter side in Townsend.  It was nice.  I can't say
I did a lot of road-driving, though.

Cheers,
Dana
pws - 15 Jul 2004 17:49 GMT
> I tell ya, I've been to Eastern TN two or three times for family
> vacation.  We had a relative that lived in Knoxville that made
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> Cheers,
> Dana

I stayed in Townsend for about 3 days, it was the most enjoyable short
vacation that I have ever taken. It is only a short drive from Deals
Gap, and being winter it was not too crowded, so we were really able
attack (if not conquer) the Dragon multiple times. We have some really
nice roads here in the central Texas Hill Country, but I have never been
on anything like this before.

http://home.austin.rr.com/sheltonservices/images/dragonmap.jpg
http://home.austin.rr.com/sheltonservices/images/gap3.jpg

Pat
'96M
Pat Dreiding - 15 Jul 2004 02:20 GMT
Hi Taco,

I have a 99 Miata and I plan on replacing the top in a few months.
Are there any words of wisdom that you can share that will make my like a
little easier?
The initial question I have are:

What year is your miata?
Did you do a lot of comparison shopping?  (I bet you did)
Where did you purchase the replacement top?   Why?
How quickly did you receive it?
Did you get a rain rail?
How long did it take you to install it?
Were the instructions adequate?
What steps should I take extra care in doing?
etc...
Can you fly down to Dallas and help me install one?  (drive down and you
will have many 90+ degrees days)
Any thing else you want to share...

Thank you,
- Pat

> Its still a little loose above the door.  I live in Seattle.  Its only sat
> in the sun (~80F) for one day.  That helped a little.  I will let it cook
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> > > Thanks in advance
> > > John
 
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