> Hi,
> I am currently looking to buy a 2004 Mazda 3. I have visited multiple
> dealers and the bargaining has been very difficult.
> How much can I expect to be able to reduce the price quoted by the
> dealer?
It varies with the area. Edmunds factors in the zip code if I recall.
Try plugging the cars specs and looking at the "True Market Value."
Bring it to the dealership. Let them know you have it by casually
laying it somewhere. It's a starting point.
I bought my 3 about four weeks ago in So Cal. Stock is crazy here.
We're 2 hours away from the biggest Mazda import center, yet no cars.
Still, I paid about a grand less than invoice. Got the 3.4 financing
too. Not a horrible deal. Decent car, lots of good points, a few
bad.
> What do Mazda dealers usually add to the deal to sweaten it a
> little bit to the clients?
Wheel locks. :)
> Rollie
Brian Fox - 14 Jul 2004 00:35 GMT
>> Hi,
>> I am currently looking to buy a 2004 Mazda 3. I have visited multiple
>> dealers and the bargaining has been very difficult.
>> How much can I expect to be able to reduce the price quoted by the
>> dealer?
> It varies with the area. Edmunds factors in the zip code if I recall.
> Try plugging the cars specs and looking at the "True Market Value."
> Bring it to the dealership. Let them know you have it by casually
> laying it somewhere. It's a starting point.
> I bought my 3 about four weeks ago in So Cal. Stock is crazy here.
> We're 2 hours away from the biggest Mazda import center, yet no cars.
> Still, I paid about a grand less than invoice. Got the 3.4 financing
> too. Not a horrible deal. Decent car, lots of good points, a few
> bad.
That's a grand over invoice by the way.
>> What do Mazda dealers usually add to the deal to sweaten it a
>> little bit to the clients?
> Wheel locks. :)
>> Rollie
glenf - 15 Jul 2004 00:46 GMT
What did you find as the 'bad points'?
> > Hi,
> > I am currently looking to buy a 2004 Mazda 3. I have visited multiple
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>
> > Rollie
Brian Fox - 15 Jul 2004 16:12 GMT
> What did you find as the 'bad points'?
My passenger door rattles severely. Afterward I found it's a
common complaint. I wish the dealer would have saved my time
and fixed it before I drove it off the lot. There are other
rattles, but overall it's pretty quiet for its class.
I'd pick the MZ6 seats over the MZ3. (Maybe even the MZ6
over the MZ3 depending on options. They're not priced
dramatically different)
The dash. Of the RX8, MZ6, and MZ3 integrated dashes, this one
is the silliest. It's the love child of Battlestar Gallactica
and Knight Rider. I joke with my wife and make swooshing sounds
when I change the radio station (dash lights up left to right).
She says, "Michael, don't touch me there." Minor complaint.
My wife is more fun to look at than the dash anyway.
The radio is nearly inseperable from the dash without much
gnashing of teeth and weeping. This would be okay if Mazda
offered more radio options. Even an aux input would make my
day. Satellite would have been nice.
There are some other oddities in the dash. The LCD's right hand
display doesn't work in the North American release. (I think).
It has the ambient temp and environment display. It's left
mysteriously unpowered. It would otherwise show lcd fan blades,
numerical temp displays, and other stuff there. It's just
a bitter reminder of what I *could* have had if I lived in
Japan.
Most of the complaints are modification limits. Who buys a
economy car just to throw a few thousand dollars more into it?
So I question my own complaints. The seats still feel like
an old sofa tho. And yes, zoom zoom applies. The car is
a lot of fun to drive.
Generic - 15 Jul 2004 16:48 GMT
> Most of the complaints are modification limits. Who buys a
> economy car just to throw a few thousand dollars more into it?
Judging by the number of rice rockets I see on the highway quite a few
people do. I've seen as many as 5-10 in a few minutes on some stretches of
busy urban freeways.
Are Mazdas best described as econo cars or 'sport compacts'? Mercedes, BMW,
Audi, Lexus, etc. all sell cars in the same size class, but none are econo
cars. Econo for the luxury segment, perhaps.
I'd call the Korean and US cars in the same size class econo cars. Try a
Chevy Cavalier for a shock about how low GM has gone--we got one for a
rental that was extremely crude and nearly falling apart. A Mazda feels
like a tight luxury car in comparison.
> So I question my own complaints. The seats still feel like
> an old sofa tho. And yes, zoom zoom applies. The car is
> a lot of fun to drive.
Mazda sells to frugal buyers and sport buyers. The Protege has had a cult
following for quite a while.
-John
Leon van Dommelen - 16 Jul 2004 00:31 GMT
>I'd call the Korean and US cars in the same size class econo cars. Try a
>Chevy Cavalier for a shock about how low GM has gone--we got one for a
>rental that was extremely crude and nearly falling apart.
What do you mean, "has gone"? I had a Cavalier rental many years
ago, and they were falling apart then too. Nowadays, apparently,
you are at least able to lock the door with the key. Chalk one
up for GM.
Leon ;)

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EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)
don't know about your area, but Mazda3 is a hot item in Canada. Last
Thursday the Toronto Star ran an article about new car sales for the first
six months of the year here in Canada. Mazda3 came in second, just behind
the slumping Honda Civic, as the most popular new car.
Looks like a sellers market for the Mazda3.
see
http://thestar.ca/cgi-bin/star_static.cgi?section=news&page=/news/040708_top
sellers.html&tacodalogin=no
for details of the sales numbers.
Pete
> Hi,
> I am currently looking to buy a 2004 Mazda 3. I have visited multiple
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> Rollie
I have some good sites for you:
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php
http://torontomazda3.com/forum/
> Hi,
> I am currently looking to buy a 2004 Mazda 3. I have visited multiple
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> dealer? What do Mazda dealers usually add to the deal to sweaten it a
> little bit to the clients?
Dealers usually don't offer real discounts until the end of model year, or
if the model is selling poorly, or if the economy is on the downswing.
#2 and #3 are not happening this year, but #1 should occur soon.
Shop around instead of looking for something special from a dealer. I was
quoted $400 more for the same model/options at one dealer than at another.
Provide evidence that you've done your homework and most dealers won't even
try the hard sell.
-John