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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / September 2004

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Starting problem on my 91

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rjobrad - 31 Aug 2004 02:27 GMT
Driving me nuts. Followed enthusiast manual. Got a click when trying to
start, so remove starter. Removed and replaced with new and it still clicks.
Clutch interlock is ok. Battery fully charged. Starts when pushed. Went from
starting to not in my garage with no symptom. 91 'C'. Can anyone give me any
ideas. Would appreciate! TIA!
Lanny Chambers - 31 Aug 2004 06:03 GMT
> Driving me nuts. Followed enthusiast manual. Got a click when trying to
> start, so remove starter. Removed and replaced with new and it still clicks.
> Clutch interlock is ok. Battery fully charged. Starts when pushed. Went from
> starting to not in my garage with no symptom. 91 'C'. Can anyone give me any
> ideas.

Clean the battery terminals? Clean the chassis grounds?

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Joachim Feise - 31 Aug 2004 20:42 GMT
Lanny Chambers wrote on 8/30/2004 22:03:

>>Driving me nuts. Followed enthusiast manual. Got a click when trying to
>>start, so remove starter. Removed and replaced with new and it still clicks.
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>
> Clean the battery terminals? Clean the chassis grounds?

I have experienced something similar with my '99. I sometimes have to repeatedly
turn the key and/or engage and disengage the clutch.
The people in my Miata club had a lot of suggestions:
- battery and battery terminals
- neutral safety switch
- ignition switch
- fly wheel
- starter solenoid

Next time this happens, I am going to go down the list...

-Joe
Iva - 31 Aug 2004 23:52 GMT
> I have experienced something similar with my '99. I sometimes have to repeatedly
> turn the key and/or engage and disengage the clutch.
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>
> Next time this happens, I am going to go down the list...

Sounds like the ignition switch - particularly if you can
jiggle/turn the key and the car starts.  Had to replace mine this
past year.

--
Iva & Belle.)
'90B Classic Red.)
#3 winkin' Miata
Joachim Feise - 31 Aug 2004 23:55 GMT
Iva wrote on 8/31/2004 15:52:

>>I have experienced something similar with my '99. I sometimes
>
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> jiggle/turn the key and the car starts.  Had to replace mine this
> past year.

In my case, I doubt it. I had an ignition key problem with my motorcycle,
and it was obvious there, with it working after wiggling the key.
With the Miata, wiggling the key doesn't change anything.
It also happens rather rarely, but unpredictably.
I suspect the flywheel or solenoid. I hear the click that the OP described
when I turn the key and when I disengage the clutch.
One of the members in the club who had the same problem before said:
"When we pulled the transmission out to replace the clutch, there were
several worn teeth on it.  We theorize that every so often those teeth would
stop on top of the starter teeth and fail to make a mechanical link.  This
theory was supported by the fact that when I experienced the problem, I
found that all I had to do was put the car in gear, push it a few feet and
release the clutch, effectively turning the flywheel about 90 degrees, and
the car would start right up."

-Joe
rjobrad - 01 Sep 2004 02:12 GMT
Your reply got me thinking, so I went and kept wiggling switch -- ta da! it
started. Switch allowed momentary contact. Thank you, your post helped me
immensely!
> > I have experienced something similar with my '99. I sometimes
> have to repeatedly
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> '90B Classic Red.)
> #3 winkin' Miata
Expmiata - 01 Sep 2004 03:22 GMT
>Sounds like the ignition switch - particularly if you can
>jiggle/turn the key and the car starts.  Had to replace mine this
>past year.

I have a bad ignition switch. While waiting for the new one, we removed it and
cleaned the contacts. It is working for now.  However, my symptoms were this:
The car would crank, but never start.  Didn't hear just the "click". hmmm
rjobrad - 01 Sep 2004 02:10 GMT
Found it ($100 later). Bad ignition switch would allow momentary current to
solenoid and drop out indicating good circuit. Now, need new ignition
switch. Thanks for the advice.
> Lanny Chambers wrote on 8/30/2004 22:03:
>
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>
> -Joe
Iva - 01 Sep 2004 19:13 GMT
> Found it ($100 later). Bad ignition switch would allow momentary current to
> solenoid and drop out indicating good circuit. Now, need new ignition
> switch. Thanks for the advice.

Got mine from Trussville through miata.net for under $90, which included
shipping.  Only took about 45 minutes, total, to install and it solved the
whole problem.

Good luck.

--
Iva & Belle.)
'90B Classic Red.)
#3 winkin' Miata
 
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