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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / October 2004

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Judder in reverse

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John - 02 Oct 2004 10:38 GMT
My daughter has a 3 year old (UK) MX5. If reversing with lowish revs the car
judders. Is it the sign of a problem?

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Lanny Chambers - 02 Oct 2004 15:06 GMT
> My daughter has a 3 year old (UK) MX5. If reversing with lowish revs the car
> judders. Is it the sign of a problem?

Not necessarily. If it only occurs when the clutch is partially engaged,
she needs to use more rpm and work on her clutch technique.

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Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Chief_Wiggum - 02 Oct 2004 16:31 GMT
What's a "judder" ??

never heard the term in my life ??

> > My daughter has a 3 year old (UK) MX5. If reversing with lowish revs the car
> > judders. Is it the sign of a problem?
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> the alignment page:
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
Jess - 02 Oct 2004 20:13 GMT
it's a j j j j j  j j jaw shaking rattle

> What's a "judder" ??
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>> the alignment page:
>> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
Col: - 02 Oct 2004 20:25 GMT
>it's a j j j j j  j j jaw shaking rattle

Bit like an orgasm ?

>> What's a "judder" ??
>>
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>>> the alignment page:
>>> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

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Col

Col's law.
Thinly sliced cabbage..

John - 02 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
I thought that my US - English may be a problem!

A violent shake!
judder, shake -- (shake or vibrate rapidly and intensively; "The old engine
was juddering"

It seems cruel to the clutch to use too many revs. Could it be an engine
Mounting that is too soft?

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>>it's a j j j j j  j j jaw shaking rattle
>
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>>>> the alignment page:
>>>> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
Chief_Wiggum - 02 Oct 2004 23:10 GMT
Cool!  I now have a "new" word in my vocab :)

> I thought that my US - English may be a problem!
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John - 03 Oct 2004 05:06 GMT
Imagine the Queen of England in her gold coach going to open Parliament - or
Troop the Color. As the coach goes over the cobbled streets she will say to
Philip, " The coach has a real judder today"

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John

> Cool!  I now have a "new" word in my vocab :)
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Randy Maheux - 03 Oct 2004 12:02 GMT
In the states we might say the clutch "chatters".  Regardless, my '98 Miata
developed a clutch chatter that, over weeks, became worse.  It turned out to
be the front transmission seal leaking oil onto the clutch.  The clutch and
seal were replaced under warranty.  FWIW, this happened after I switched to
Red line MTL in the transmission.  The dealer told me that it was common for
the seals to fail when synthetic oil was used in the transmission (possible
BS?).  They did the work under warranty because the owner's manual said
nothing about avoiding synthetic lubes.

Randy

> Imagine the Queen of England in her gold coach going to open Parliament - or
> Troop the Color. As the coach goes over the cobbled streets she will say to
> Philip, " The coach has a real judder today"
Lanny Chambers - 03 Oct 2004 16:13 GMT
> The dealer told me that it was common for
> the seals to fail when synthetic oil was used in the transmission (possible
> BS?).

BS. While it's true that switching to synthetic after many years of dino
oil may cause seals to weep, it ain't gonna happen to any Mazda still
under warranty.

I started using MTL at 60k miles, and my tranny doesn't leak. I just
passed 128k.

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Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

 
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