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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / November 2004

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How to adjust the Fuel/Air Mixture

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L Bader - 24 Oct 2004 02:05 GMT
Does anyone have a reasonable fix, aside from purchasing the FM-ECU ?

TIA...

- L

'97 STO, "Chouki"

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chuckk - 26 Oct 2004 04:30 GMT
What for?
There are seveal "tricks" for specific purposes.
Alter air temperature readings
Change air flow readings.
"Clamp" the O2 sensor reading
These really only work for/during open loop, or for a very short time in
closed loop, since the O2 sensor is going to cause the ECU to adjust the
mixture in closed loop. The O2 clamp has some longer term possibilities, if
the "rich lean" change is enough to fool the ECU. It may also be necessary
to alter the second O2 sensor signal.

The usual thing is to fool the ECU and add more fuel with a timing retard as
well.

It's likely that springing for an aftermarket ECU is in your future.
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L Bader - 28 Oct 2004 02:51 GMT
>What for?

After replacing the intake, building a cold air box for said intake,
and a high-flow exhaust from manifold back, I seem to be running a bit
lean...

>It's likely that springing for an aftermarket ECU is in your future.

I figured as much, but thought I would ask...

Original question below:

>> Does anyone have a reasonable fix, aside from purchasing the FM-ECU ?

'97 STO, "Chouki"

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chuckk - 28 Oct 2004 23:02 GMT
In your case, I'd be thinking about the placement of the air flow sensor. It
may be that it's not reading quite what you need.  The timing retard is
usually only needed if you add forced air (turbo/supercharger)
I'd also replace the fuel filter if you haven't already done so. Another
thing to do is to see if the fuel pressure drops below normal at higher
throttle settings.

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Leon van Dommelen - 29 Oct 2004 00:59 GMT
>>What for?
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>After replacing the intake, building a cold air box for said intake,
>and a high-flow exhaust from manifold back, I seem to be running a bit
>lean...

Why do you say so?  You should be putting only a small percentage more
air through the system as usual.

Apparently, the JR uses a resistor in the air temperature circuit to
trick the ECU in adding more fuel.  You could try the same with a much
smaller resistor.  I do not remember what the resistance of the JR kit
one is, (if I ever knew,) but you could try the power forum on
miataforum.com.

Following chuck's advice in insuring the proper operation of the
OEM system first seems like a good idea, though.  You hate to
have to take out the resistor later again after you replace the
fuel filter or fuel pump, say.

Leon

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L Bader - 29 Oct 2004 03:01 GMT
Chuck -

Thanks for the lead.  The car has ~43K miles on it.  Having owned it
for only 6 months, I've not changed the fuel filter.

Leon -

My reasoning for the "running lean" assessment is due to the blueing
verse s bronzing of the RB 4-1 stainless header.

I agree that changing the filter is a first option over adding a
resistor of unknown size...

- L

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'97 STO, "Chouki"

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chuckk - 03 Nov 2004 04:30 GMT
I don't know if that's a good indication these days.  The feds insist that
the engine run leaner than they did in the old days when we used pipe
discoloration to judge rich/lean.

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L Bader - 05 Nov 2004 02:19 GMT
Chuck -

I've talked with a few other gear-heads and have come to the same
conclusion.  -- Based upon the lack of CEL and the relatively
unchanged fuel consumption post exhaust upgrade, I am guessing things
are OK...

Thanks to those that chimed in...

- L

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'97 STO, "Chouki"

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