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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / December 2004

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Usenet - 11 Dec 2004 18:56 GMT
Picked up Zigger from Coop's miata and I'm told I now have the first M1 (97)
with the MP62 supercharger. I have just 300 miles on it now but the power
increase is really something. Of course, now I need more track time and
instruction but Thunderhill is just a few months away!
I kept the original exhaust from the cat back so my car looks box stock on
the outside.
I'll check back later, right now I need to go for a drive...
Leon van Dommelen - 11 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT
>Picked up Zigger from Coop's miata and I'm told I now have the first M1 (97)
>with the MP62 supercharger. I have just 300 miles on it now but the power
>increase is really something. Of course, now I need more track time and
>instruction but Thunderhill is just a few months away!
>I kept the original exhaust from the cat back so my car looks box stock on
>the outside.

Congrats.  :) You may want to consider a roll bar if you plan track
days.

Leon

>I'll check back later, right now I need to go for a drive...

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Usenet - 12 Dec 2004 18:26 GMT
I have a Hard Dog Hard Bar but I may get a differnt one for track events.
Many people thenk the hard bar is less than adequate rollover protection.
I think a Deuce may be in my future.

>>Picked up Zigger from Coop's miata and I'm told I now have the first M1
>>(97)
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>
>>I'll check back later, right now I need to go for a drive...
Steve Whisman - 12 Dec 2004 18:33 GMT
I'm the original poster and I didn't realize my name wasn't showing in the
"from" area. I have it fixed now.
>I have a Hard Dog Hard Bar but I may get a differnt one for track events.
>Many people thenk the hard bar is less than adequate rollover protection.
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>>
>>>I'll check back later, right now I need to go for a drive...
Leon van Dommelen - 12 Dec 2004 23:43 GMT
>I have a Hard Dog Hard Bar but I may get a differnt one for track events.
>Many people thenk the hard bar is less than adequate rollover protection.

It probably depends on how tall your rump is.  I guess the problem
is minimizing the chances that your helmet hits the pavement,
potentially breaking you neck.  The helmet significantly reduces
clearance.

Leon

>I think a Deuce may be in my future.
>>
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>>
>>>I'll check back later, right now I need to go for a drive...

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rammm@dommelen.net            http://www.dommelen.net/miata
                 EXIT THE INTERSTATES       (Jamie Jensen)

Lanny Chambers - 13 Dec 2004 00:37 GMT
> >I have a Hard Dog Hard Bar but I may get a differnt one for track events.
> >Many people thenk the hard bar is less than adequate rollover protection.
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> potentially breaking you neck.  The helmet significantly reduces
> clearance.

The problem with the Hard Bar is that it lacks any sort of rearward or
diagonal support. Most tracks don't recognize it as a rollbar. They may
not accept a Deuce, either, since it's so short and the hoops aren't
connected above the rear shelf. Check with the track event's oranizers
*before* buying anything.

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Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
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Leon van Dommelen - 13 Dec 2004 12:49 GMT
>> >I have a Hard Dog Hard Bar but I may get a differnt one for track events.
>> >Many people thenk the hard bar is less than adequate rollover protection.
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>connected above the rear shelf. Check with the track event's oranizers
>*before* buying anything.

Thunderhill used to accept anything when I was there, but that
may of course have changed.

Leon

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rammm@dommelen.net            http://www.dommelen.net/miata
                 EXIT THE INTERSTATES       (Jamie Jensen)

Steve Whisman - 14 Dec 2004 00:24 GMT
>>The problem with the Hard Bar is that it lacks any sort of rearward or
>>diagonal support. Most tracks don't recognize it as a rollbar. They may
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Leon

In 2003 when I went they would accept no bar your first two times. After
that, they insisted on a bar sturdier than a hard bar. The deuce was
acceptible to them. Other organizations are not so lenient, I hear.,
requiring bars that extend higher than your helmeted head.
I doubt a bar that high would allow raising the top. Something I need in
Seattle.
> Leon van Dommelen :)    Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
> rammm@dommelen.net            http://www.dommelen.net/miata
>                  EXIT THE INTERSTATES       (Jamie Jensen)
Leon van Dommelen - 14 Dec 2004 01:04 GMT
>>>The problem with the Hard Bar is that it lacks any sort of rearward or
>>>diagonal support. Most tracks don't recognize it as a rollbar. They may
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>In 2003 when I went they would accept no bar your first two times. After
>that, they insisted on a bar sturdier than a hard bar.

They sure have changed.  Is Ken Hill (?) still running it.  When
I went, we pretty much voluntary divided into experienced and
novice.   (I of course was novice.)  Then someone from the
"experienced" group rolled his Miata a few times.  Without roll bar,
IIRC. He really put the one corner of his windshield deep in the dirt.
So they mixed the slow and fast groups together to slow things down.

Over at Sebring they used pace cars for the slow group, BTW.

Leon

> The deuce was
>acceptible to them. Other organizations are not so lenient, I hear.,
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>> rammm@dommelen.net            http://www.dommelen.net/miata
>>                  EXIT THE INTERSTATES       (Jamie Jensen)

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Leon van Dommelen :)    Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
rammm@dommelen.net            http://www.dommelen.net/miata
                 EXIT THE INTERSTATES       (Jamie Jensen)

Steve Whisman - 17 Dec 2004 01:43 GMT
>>In 2003 when I went they would accept no bar your first two times. After
>>that, they insisted on a bar sturdier than a hard bar.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Leon

Ken and Michelle were running it, but I think it is more and better
organized now. There were several groups, divided by experience in about
three levels. Were were strongly admonished that overly aggressive driving
would get us booted immediately and they monitored us pretty closely. We had
a few spinners but no damage.
BRUCE HASKIN - 12 Dec 2004 04:06 GMT
Yaw-sure, that will be a "Sneeker" ! I had a look at that set-up just
before "Coop" put it on your car.  It looks like a nice clean set-up.
Have fun with it !

     Bruce     RED    '91      (Normandy Park WA)
 
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