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I'm considering buying a 2005 Miata LS. Is it true that I will need to use premium gasoline? > I'm considering buying a 2005 Miata LS. Is it true that I will need to use > premium gasoline? What?... and pay a whole $3.00 more for a tank of gas, providing, of course, that you start with an empty tank and the tank size is 15 gallons? Preposterous! Buy the damn car and put Premium in it. If you can afford a Miata, you can afford paying $3.00, + or -, a tankful a week more. --------- Excerpt from a Miata? forum: > I know this may be a dumb question, but I don't know exactly what the gas > tank capacity is of my '92 miata. Not dumb at all, how else will you know how many miles you can drive before you run out of gas? The capacity of the 1.6 liter Miata fuel tank is 45 Liters, 11.9 US Gallons or 9.9 Imperial Gallons. ---------- OK, I stand corrected... or do I? I don't know what the 2005 gas tank size is, but, here again, how much would be too much to pay? From what I have read here, most owners don't put that many miles on their Miatas, so is $3.00 (roughly) too much to pay a week? Al Obviously I'm a Miata novice. Here's another question for you guys that I don't think I'll get a straight answer from a dealer on. I've just GOT to have mp3 in this car. The LS radio is described as a Bose AM-FM-CD 6-speaker 225 watt setup, a step above the standard Miata radio, but does it have mp3 or will I have to shell out big bucks for that? > > I'm considering buying a 2005 Miata LS. Is it true that I will need to use > > premium gasoline? [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Al Norman D wrote in: > I've just GOT to have mp3 in this car. No, you don't. Turn off the radio and enjoy the ride, you'll be surprised how sweet is the music of the Miata! > Norman D wrote in: > >> I've just GOT to have mp3 in this car. > > No, you don't. Turn off the radio and enjoy the ride, you'll be > surprised how sweet is the music of the Miata! Don't pay any attention to XS11E. He doesn't even post under his real name -- unless XS11E _is_ is real name, in which case you really shouldn't pay attention to him. I put a Kenwood 10MB MP3 player in my 2003 and I love it. I've got about 90 CDs ripped and available in the car. I don't think I've had a physical CD in the car's player in over a year now.  SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! NOW do I get to blow at out the CANLDES?? visi.com Grant Edwards wrote in: > Don't pay any attention to XS11E. He doesn't even post under > his real name Of course not. Using a real name or real email address on usenet is a very bad idea, spammers harvest email addresses and use the harvested addresses to send their spam. > Grant Edwards wrote in: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > usenet is a very bad idea, spammers harvest email addresses > and use the harvested addresses to send their spam. I don't see how that makes using a real name a problem. E-mail sent to "Grant Edwards" doesnt' get anywhere. Personally, I think using a real e-mail address is a good idea as well, but if you run virus-vectors for OS and e-mail client or don't have decent spam filtering I can see that hiding your e-mail address might be required. Perhaps I'm just being old-school, but I tend to assume that people who post to Usenet under "screen names" are kooks, trolls, or trouble-makers. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! Hello. I know at the divorce rate among visi.com unmarried Catholic Alaskan females!! grante@visi.com wrote in: >> Grant Edwards wrote in: > I don't see how that makes using a real name a problem. > E-mail sent to "Grant Edwards" doesnt' get anywhere. It allows you to be looked up by people who may not all mean you well. > Personally, I think using a real e-mail address is a good idea > as well, but if you run virus-vectors for OS and e-mail client > or don't have decent spam filtering I can see that hiding your > e-mail address might be required. Makes absolutely no difference what software you run, why do you think that? Your email address and your posts are archived on Google and elsewhere. > Perhaps I'm just being old-school, but I tend to assume that > people who post to Usenet under "screen names" are kooks, > trolls, or trouble-makers. No, just people who are more cautious than you and maybe more experienced with usenet. > > I don't see how that makes using a real name a problem. > > E-mail sent to "Grant Edwards" doesnt' get anywhere. > > It allows you to be looked up by people who may not all mean you well. Oh, good grief. Tell me: is it hard to type while you're hiding down there under the bed? > > Personally, I think using a real e-mail address is a good idea > > as well, but if you run virus-vectors for OS and e-mail client [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that? Your email address and your posts are archived on Google and > elsewhere. It makes a difference. You're gonna get spam and virus emails regardless. If you're silly enough to use Windows, Outlook Express, and MSIE, you'll need to spend real money on virus protection, or get trashed. I don't use any of thiose things. I laugh at PC viruses. Please keep using a PC, so I'll continue to stay off the dirtbags' radar. > > Perhaps I'm just being old-school, but I tend to assume that > > people who post to Usenet under "screen names" are kooks, > > trolls, or trouble-makers. > > No, just people who are more cautious than you and maybe more > experienced with usenet. In 10 years of Usenet, I've never seen a virus that could affect my computer. Not once. No one has ever appeared in the middle of the night to beat me up, either. Usenet is the least of my personal exposure on the Internet, though. It's my livelihood, and a bajillion people use one of my real email addresses. SignatureLanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA '94C the alignment page: http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html > I don't use any of thiose things. I laugh at PC viruses. > > Please keep using a PC, so I'll continue to stay off the dirtbags' radar. I don't think that you have to worry about that. Winblows is on well over 90% of the world's computers. Every job that I have worked for in the past 10 years has required Windows, MS Office, Excel, etc. experience, not one employer cared if I was familiar with Mac, Linux, or any other OS. Nobody has to like it, but Microsoft has won, which naturally makes them a bigger target. They stomped the competition "like a narc at a biker rally" -Dennis Miller. If Mac or some other system were dominant, or at least competitive, then we would see the situation reversed as far as computer viruses. To keep this somewhat on topic, the software for my TEC-3 engine management computer runs on Windows. They obviously designed it this way because most people with computers are running Windows. Imagine the trouble, (and lack of sales), that the company would have if they had designed it to run only on the Mac. Pat > If Mac or some other system were dominant, or at least competitive, > then we would see the situation reversed as far as computer viruses. Not wanting to start a completely off-topic thread, but what you say is true only to a certain extent. The way the current Mac OS is set up, even if mal-ware gets ahold of your computer, the damage it can do is limited. Unfortunately, the same is not the case in WindowsLand. Jon >> I don't see how that makes using a real name a problem. >> E-mail sent to "Grant Edwards" doesnt' get anywhere. > > It allows you to be looked up by people who may not all mean > you well. And going by one's real name give's one incentive to behave in a way that doesn't make other's want to harm one. >> Personally, I think using a real e-mail address is a good idea >> as well, but if you run virus-vectors for OS and e-mail client [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Makes absolutely no difference what software you run, why do > you think that? Not reading one or two spam messages a day just isn't that difficult. If one's system isn't susceptible to all of the e-mail vectored viruses, then I just don't see the big deal about people know my e-mail address. I've been posting on Usenet using my real name and a valid e-mail address for over 15 years. It just hasn't been a problem. > Your email address and your posts are archived on Google and > elsewhere. Yup. And that has, on more than one occasion, allowed somebody to find me. On all those occasions I was happy it was so. >> Perhaps I'm just being old-school, but I tend to assume that >> people who post to Usenet under "screen names" are kooks, >> trolls, or trouble-makers. > > No, just people who are more cautious than you and maybe more > experienced with usenet. I've been using Usenet for, um, 17 years now. I've no reason to hide my identity. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! I feel better about at world problems now! visi.com > > Grant Edwards wrote in: > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > people who post to Usenet under "screen names" are kooks, > trolls, or trouble-makers. I used to post under an account with my real name, but wondered how much it affected spam. I set up my current account exclusively for Usenet and public forums. It gets between 3 and 10 spam messages per day and is NEVER used for anything else. Case closed. You can contact me through that account, but I'm not give spammers and potential identity thieves an edge. I visit another group (alt.vacation.las-vegas) where there are several highly eccentric regulars (who are entertaining)...they have been known to visit users' houses, file lawsuits, cause trouble and truly feud! If you are really old school (I started using the internet in 1991) you'll remember that it was fairly transparent community and virtually anyone could be identified. 'Anonymous' accounts had to be sought out because most everyone had a university, research org or government ID. The newsreaders had big bold warnings why you posted a message, stating that bosses, family, etc. may read this years in the future. People did in fact get fired and did have stalkers to deal with due to Usenet. -John Okay boys, stop fighting or I'll take away your keyboards. We've gone from a discussion about the Miata to a sissy fight over screen names. Now back to the Miata. > > > Grant Edwards wrote in: > > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > -John > If you are really old school (I started using the internet in 1991) I started using Usenet in '89. I didn't start using the Internet until several years later. > The newsreaders had big bold warnings why you posted a > message, stating that bosses, family, etc. may read this years > in the future. Of course. Nobody in their right mind would think otherwise. > People did in fact get fired and did have stalkers to deal > with due to Usenet. I guess I'd better unplug all the network cables and hide under the bed. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! I wonder if I could at ever get started in the visi.com credit world? > Grant Edwards wrote in: > Of course not. Using a real name or real email address on usenet is a > very bad idea, spammers harvest email addresses and use the harvested > addresses to send their spam. If you don't already have a Google Mail (gmail account), you might not know they seem to be excellent for filtering spam from real mail, and thus I use a real email address, unmunged. So - I have a handful of invitations for gmail accounts (lifetime free, 2GB of storage, POP/IMAP, you name it). I'd be delighted to send them to anyone who emails me off-list, first-come, first-served. Cheers, Dana > So - I have a handful of invitations for gmail accounts (lifetime > free, 2GB of storage, POP/IMAP, you name it). I'd be delighted > to send them to anyone who emails me off-list, first-come, first-served. Do they allow IMAP access now? Last time I checked they didn't, and that was the one thing keeping it from being useful to me. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! I selected E5... but at I didn't hear "Sam the Sham visi.com and the Pharoahs"! >>So - I have a handful of invitations for gmail accounts (lifetime >>free, 2GB of storage, POP/IMAP, you name it). I'd be delighted [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > didn't, and that was the one thing keeping it from being useful > to me. My mistake - POP only. They really ought to do IMAP. >>>So - I have a handful of invitations for gmail accounts (lifetime >>>free, 2GB of storage, POP/IMAP, you name it). I'd be delighted [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > My mistake - POP only. They really ought to do IMAP. That would make it loads more useful, but then there'd be no need to use their web-interface at all. They'd lose ad revenue. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! Now KEN and BARBIE at are PERMANENTLY ADDICTED to visi.com MIND-ALTERING DRUGS... >>My mistake - POP only. They really ought to do IMAP. > > That would make it loads more useful, but then there'd be no > need to use their web-interface at all. They'd lose ad revenue. I don't think gmail is *really* about ad revenue. I think it's about having a huge database of most everyone's email to anonymously mine. IMAP would serve this purpose better. Shhhhh. Don't tell Google. Dana Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote in news:11631gjnsv9ng12 @corp.supernews.com: > I put a Kenwood 10MB MP3 player in my 2003 and I love it. I've > got about 90 CDs ripped and available in the car. I don't think > I've had a physical CD in the car's player in over a year now. Heh.. I hope you mean 10GB... since 10mb would give you enough space for about 2 songs!! :) I assume that's the Music Keg? Do you use the FM transmitter, or have it hardwired? > Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote in news:11631gjnsv9ng12 > @corp.supernews.com: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Heh.. I hope you mean 10GB... since 10mb would give you enough space for > about 2 songs!! :) Doh. Yes, I meant 10GB. > I assume that's the Music Keg? Yup. > Do you use the FM transmitter, or have it hardwired? It's hardwired to a Kenwood head unit. The other half of the double-DIN hole is wiating to be filled with a trio of gauges as soon as I figure out how to reach around to get at the back end of the gauges to screw on the retaining nuts. With the empty hole there and the the faceplate, it looks like my stereo has already been stolen, so the more paranoid amung us might just leave it the way it is. SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! HOORAY, Ronald!! Now at YOU can marry LINDA visi.com RONSTADT too!! Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com> wrote in news:1168c982uaufg32 @corp.supernews.com: >> Do you use the FM transmitter, or have it hardwired? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > my stereo has already been stolen, so the more paranoid amung > us might just leave it the way it is. Hmm, was thinking just recently they need to come up w/ a holographic stereo cover that makes it LOOK like you have a big gaping hole in your dash where the stereo should be.. kinda like the commercial they had a little while back w/ the car cover that made some new car look like an old beater. -Scott >Obviously I'm a Miata novice. Here's another question for you guys that I >don't think I'll get a straight answer from a dealer on. I've just GOT to >have mp3 in this car. The LS radio is described as a Bose AM-FM-CD >6-speaker 225 watt setup, a step above the standard Miata radio, but does it >have mp3 or will I have to shell out big bucks for that? It does not have an MP3 player. It does not have a plug for your iPod. It is a six CD unit. If you want to listen to the mp3s you downloaded: You can convert your mp3 files back to WAV files (use Roxio or Nero to convert and burn a standard CD so they can play in a standard player) You can make a connector to plug your ipod or whaterever into the back of the Bose unit. You can replace the Bose unit. You can opt for the six speed tranny and you will have something much more entertaining that the radio to fiddle with while you drive. >>Obviously I'm a Miata novice. Here's another question for you guys that I >>don't think I'll get a straight answer from a dealer on. I've just GOT to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It does not have an MP3 player. It does not have a plug for your > iPod. Adding a plug is not exactly trivial, but doable. Hardest part is figuring out how to attach to the pins in the connector if you don't have a connector, and then of course finding a switched source of 12V to use for the enable switch. You have to add a plug, a switch, and a resistor. Then you flip the switch and it says "LINE" on the display and you can hear your mp3 player. Works like a champ but it is a non-trivial job so unless you're the type who's committed to the factory look of the original stereo and/or you are super-cheap, then you'd almost 100% do better to just replace the head unit with an aftermarket unit with an aux plug already in it. FWIW, my in-dash factory CD player stinks. Won't play a CD when it's cold. Skips like mad with any CD-R in it. It's not loud, distorts easily, etc. Adding the MP3 input really made it useful for me!! I use my ipod all the time in the car now. But frankly this factory head unit is nothing special to hang on to. > Obviously I'm a Miata novice. Here's another question for you guys > that I don't think I'll get a straight answer from a dealer on. I've > just GOT to have mp3 in this car. The LS radio is described as a Bose > AM-FM-CD 6-speaker 225 watt setup, a step above the standard Miata > radio, but does it have mp3 or will I have to shell out big bucks for > that? I believe that Mazda offers an MP3 player as an option. Unfortunately it is much more expensive than it's worth and you have to give up the 6-disc changer to get it. There are many alternatives. I have a 94 that I just put (another.. previous was stolen) Eclipse MP3 CD player in. I got a really good deal on it and paid about $160 installed (would probably be around $200 or a bit more regularly). Something similar from one of the more common brands available at best buy or the like could no doubt be had for under $200. It appears the option of replacing the head unit is becoming obsolete as Mazda goes to the proprietery (non-din-sized) radios on the 06 model. I didn't see what year model you're looking at, but if it's an 06 then your best bet will be either Mazda's MP3 units, or an add-on type unit. There's a unit that Rockford Fosgate makes that I've looked at a few times which includes a 20gig removable hard drive (avail at Crutchfield for $250: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-gyxgvTjXEgl/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50800 &id=essential_info&i=575DMP1 ). If you like the look of that unit and don't mind waiting a bit.. keep an eye on www.woot.com. They've had the Rockford unit twice in the past month for $200, and it also includes a home stereo piece which basically enables you to stream music to your home stereo from your pc. There are several other hard drive based units like the Rockford, Kenwood has one called the Music Keg. There's also the option of getting a portable mp3 player such as an ipod and getting an fm transmitter for it. This allows you to listen to your ipod on your car radio. Sound quality suffers a bit with this solution, but it's a lot easier than wiring a plug into a factory head unit which doesn't have an aux input on the front. -Scott >> Obviously I'm a Miata novice. Here's another question for you guys >> that I don't think I'll get a straight answer from a dealer on. I've [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >and getting an fm transmitter for it. This allows you to listen to your >ipod on your car radio. Sound quality suffers a bit with this solution, Does it really? You have to compress the sound anyway to be able to hear it in a Miata at speed. Leon >but it's a lot easier than wiring a plug into a factory head unit which >doesn't have an aux input on the front. > > -Scott SignatureLeon van Dommelen :) Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .) rammm@dommelen.net http://www.dommelen.net/miata EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen) >>There's also the option of getting a portable mp3 player such as an ipod >>and getting an fm transmitter for it. This allows you to listen to your >>ipod on your car radio. Sound quality suffers a bit with this solution, > > Does it really? You have to compress the sound anyway to be > able to hear it in a Miata at speed. "suffers a bit" is a dramatic understatement. It sounds like crap. Distorted, no high end, not nearly loud enough. Hardwired sounds great. >>>There's also the option of getting a portable mp3 player such as an >>>ipod and getting an fm transmitter for it. This allows you to listen [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hardwired sounds great. I haven't done much testing myself, but I've heard it makes a pretty big difference which fm transmitter you get. Hardwire is definately the way to go if you have that option, but a tape adapter will suffice if you have that option and a fm transmitter will get you there w/o the extra work of digging into the wiring. A side feature is that you can take the fm transmitter w/ you for other cars too.. or home systems. -Scott >>There's also the option of getting a portable mp3 player such as an >>ipod and getting an fm transmitter for it. This allows you to listen [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Leon In a perfect world, you'd always have your top down (we don't all live in FL you know) and never have to sit in traffic. But there are lots of times when even miata drivers have to suffer in semi-decent listening environments where the quality loss with an fm transmitted signal is noticably worse than a wired option. I just didn't want to make the OP think that he was gonna get cd quality sound from it.. there are definate advantages from the FM solution, but sound quality is not one of them. -Scott > I just didn't want to make the OP think that he was gonna get cd quality > sound from it. Ain't gonna happen from mp3 anyway. Not that it makes any difference in a roadster. If you can hear the stereo, yer muffler ain't loud enuf. :-) Signature--- Lanny Chambers St. Louis, USA http://www.hummingbirds.net/ >> I just didn't want to make the OP think that he was gonna get cd quality >> sound from it. > >Ain't gonna happen from mp3 anyway. Not that it makes any difference in >a roadster. Actually, I am fine with the high bit rate VBR. The standard 128 bit rate is pretty bad, though. Leon >If you can hear the stereo, yer muffler ain't loud enuf. :-) SignatureLeon van Dommelen :) Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .) rammm@dommelen.net http://www.dommelen.net/miata EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen) You could buy a Mazda RX-8 and then you have to put in SUPER high test gas. Have you see super high test prices lately? (I own an older Miata and a new RX-8.) > I'm considering buying a 2005 Miata LS. Is it true that I will need to use > premium gasoline? I was appalled by this at first, but on second thought, what's the point of buying a car with 8.25 lbs turbo boost capability if you're not going to use premium gas? If you want to run regular gas, buy a Saturn, or some other housefrau car. My first two tanks of gas in my Mazdaspeed were 87 octane. It seemed to run OK, with no knocking. However, since then I run only 91-93 octane, and the change in performance is clear. > I'm considering buying a 2005 Miata LS. Is it true that I will need to > use > premium gasoline? |
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