The car is another person's 1991 Miata with 100K plus miles. Last week,
the car did not start. It had full electrical power but was not cranking
at all. I checked all of the fuses, fiddled with the connections under
the dash and at the battery to see if anything was loose, then the car
started up.
It ran fine for several days but is now having the exact same symptoms.
Since it has power and is not cranking at all, I am suspecting a faulty
starter. Another thought that I had was that the clutch lock is not
disengaging when the pedal is depressed. Any ideas or suggestions on
other places to start looking for a solution to this problem would be
appreciated.
Thanks!
Pat
Steven Spits - 09 May 2005 09:22 GMT
> The car is another person's 1991 Miata with 100K plus miles. Last week,
> the car did not start. It had full electrical power but was not cranking
> at all. I checked all of the fuses, fiddled with the connections under the
> dash and at the battery to see if anything was loose, then the car started
> up.
Can you hear the starter relay click? If it doesn't, check if you have 12V
on the trigger wire.
With kind regards,
Steven
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pws - 11 May 2005 15:58 GMT
>>The car is another person's 1991 Miata with 100K plus miles. Last week,
>>the car did not start. It had full electrical power but was not cranking
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There is no relay click at all unless the car starts. I think that it is
the ignition switch, but in case I am wrong, is the trigger wire a wire
that attaches to the starter? If the trigger wire is not receiving
power, it is not consistent, as the car will sometimes start. Would this
make sense for a malfunctioning trigger wire to be an off-again /
on-again problem?
I will replace the ignition switch. If this does not solve the problem,
I will want to look into the trigger wire. I have already checked the
battery and it is good.
Thanks again,
Pat
gixer - 11 May 2005 18:21 GMT
The Advice on the battery is good, I had a similar problem, even with jump
cables on it still would not turn over, a trickle charge overnight and the
next morning all was ok.
>>>The car is another person's 1991 Miata with 100K plus miles. Last week,
>>>the car did not start. It had full electrical power but was not cranking
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> Pat
seasalt726@netscape.net - 09 May 2005 12:59 GMT
> The car is another person's 1991 Miata with 100K plus miles. Last week,
> the car did not start.
Charge the battery first. Since it's in the trunk, it has to power the
starter thru long cables. If it's not at full strength, this happens.
One test is to put a voltmeter on the battery and monitor the voltage
as the car is started. If it drops much below 11 volts on a charged
battery, the battery is no good. Or your friend can go to a car parts
store that tests batteries.
Lanny Chambers - 09 May 2005 15:09 GMT
> Since it has power and is not cranking at all, I am suspecting a faulty
> starter. Another thought that I had was that the clutch lock is not
> disengaging when the pedal is depressed.
That's one possibiity. It's easy enough to jumper around the switch at
the clutch pedal.
But another common cause is a worn ignition switch, caused by an
overly-heavy keyring hanging from it. Try wiggling (not twisting) the
key around as you try to start the car.
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Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
pws - 11 May 2005 15:48 GMT
> But another common cause is a worn ignition switch, caused by an
> overly-heavy keyring hanging from it. Try wiggling (not twisting) the
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> '94C, St. Louis
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
I believe that this is the culprit, though I have known the owner well
the entire time he has owned the car since 15K miles and he knows not to
hang a heavy key ring there.
Still, with 100K plus miles, the ignition switch could be worn anyway,
and who knows what hung there for the first 15K miles. I have seen a key
ring that weighed over two pounds, (I actually weighed it for her),
hanging from a co-worker's truck ignition. :-/
Luckily we have a donor car with a switch that is good, and the swap-out
doesn't look to be very difficult.
Thanks to all for the responses and help!
pat
Iva - 11 May 2005 16:43 GMT
pat wrote:
> > But another common cause is a worn ignition switch, caused by an
> > overly-heavy keyring hanging from it. Try wiggling (not twisting) the
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> Thanks to all for the responses and help!
That switch is probably your culprit. I had to replace that switch on my
Belle last year and I've never used a keyring with more than 3 keys on it
the entire time I've owned her. It's not a difficult job and shouldn't take
very long either. I think it took longer to read the instructions than to
actually do the repair.
Iva & Belle.)
'90B Classic Red.)
#3 winkin' Miata
pws - 12 May 2005 15:32 GMT
> That switch is probably your culprit. I had to replace that switch on my
> Belle last year and I've never used a keyring with more than 3 keys on it
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> '90B Classic Red.)
> #3 winkin' Miata
Thanks! I will replace it today, it is nice to know that it is an easy job.
Pat