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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / August 2005

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Toyo T1-R

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Barry - 11 Aug 2005 18:52 GMT
I need tires and was planning to get the Toyo T1-S, but my local shop said
that they are no longer available and have been replaced by the T1-R.  Does
anyone out there have any experience with these?  In particular, is the ride
as good as the T1-S?

Barry
Lanny Chambers - 11 Aug 2005 22:44 GMT
> I need tires and was planning to get the Toyo T1-S, but my local shop said
> that they are no longer available and have been replaced by the T1-R.  Does
> anyone out there have any experience with these?  In particular, is the ride
> as good as the T1-S?

I have a set on order. Judging by the reports on the Miata forum, the
T1-R retains the ride while improving slightly in every other aspect.

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Leon van Dommelen - 12 Aug 2005 00:53 GMT
>> I need tires and was planning to get the Toyo T1-S, but my local shop said
>> that they are no longer available and have been replaced by the T1-R.  Does
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>I have a set on order. Judging by the reports on the Miata forum, the
>T1-R retains the ride while improving slightly in every other aspect.

New T1-Rs are better than worn T1-Ss?

Leon
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Lanny Chambers - 12 Aug 2005 02:36 GMT
> New T1-Rs are better than worn T1-Ss?

They'd better be. At 18k miles and more than two years old, the
tramlining is getting really annoying. Plenty of rubber left now, but
we're taking a 2000-mile trip soon and don't want to be caught short on
tread depth if it rains on the way back. Not that it's looking like it
will rain again, ever...

I doubt we'll encounter anything resembling curves, since we're going to
a conference in Texas, which is at least as boring as Florida. At least
they'll be well broken in and ready for the Ozarks upon our return.

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M. Cantera - 12 Aug 2005 00:36 GMT
They Rs are just out.  Toyo quotes 18.1 lbs for the T1-S and 19 for
the T1-R.  They are both 280 AA A and W speed rated.  So it seems one
is replacing the other.  Slightly different thread pattern, maybe less
noisy?

I would opt for lighter tire if available.  HOwever, Toyo is
advertising a 500 mile no cost test and a free set of sunglasses, so
just take them up on it.

>I need tires and was planning to get the Toyo T1-S, but my local shop said
>that they are no longer available and have been replaced by the T1-R.  Does
>anyone out there have any experience with these?  In particular, is the ride
>as good as the T1-S?
>
>Barry
Leon van Dommelen - 12 Aug 2005 01:19 GMT
>They Rs are just out.  Toyo quotes 18.1 lbs for the T1-S

for the 215/40ZR16 and 205/45ZR16
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=2

> and 19 for
>the T1-R.

for the 205/45ZR16
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=20

The 215/40ZR16 is listed as 18.

>  They are both 280 AA A and W speed rated.  So it seems one
>is replacing the other.

Sounds likely.
Leon

>  Slightly different thread pattern, maybe less
>noisy?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>>Barry

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Frank Berger - 14 Aug 2005 20:41 GMT
>I need tires and was planning to get the Toyo T1-S, but my local shop said
>that they are no longer available and have been replaced by the T1-R.  Does
>anyone out there have any experience with these?  In particular, is the
>ride as good as the T1-S?
>
> Barry

This biggest change may be the absence of the hyphen in the T1R.
Lanny Chambers - 14 Aug 2005 21:54 GMT
> This biggest change may be the absence of the hyphen in the T1R.

Good catch! When did that change? I seem to remember a hyphen on
official Toyo websites last year.

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