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Turbonator
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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 04:26 GMT Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't care about the HP but the MPG would be nice.
Alan Baker - 27 Oct 2005 05:11 GMT > Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't care > about the HP but the MPG would be nice. Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?
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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 07:11 GMT >Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, >why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two.
BCRandy - 27 Oct 2005 11:31 GMT Or why haven't "tuners" been using them? Or for that matter, why no magazine articles about them or the "Two Guys Garage" show been saying how great they are?
> >Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, > >why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? > > I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll > spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two. ____________________________________________________________ ___________________
> Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com > <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><> Tex - 27 Oct 2005 13:54 GMT >Or why haven't "tuners" been using them? Or for that >matter, why no magazine articles about them or the "Two Guys >Garage" show been saying how great they are? I guess I'll order one and see for myself.
Leon van Dommelen - 27 Oct 2005 12:26 GMT >>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, >>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? > >I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll >spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two. I have tried it, and I have very interesting results. However, I do not know whether I should tell publicly in this litigious world. I think I need some sign that I can trust you. Put $100 in cash in an envelope, and mail it to
Leon Van Dommelen 2525 Pottsdamer St. #A229 Tallahassee, FL 32310
Of course, I will mail the money right back to you. It is just to see that you trust me so that I can trust you.
Leon
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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 14:02 GMT >>>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, >>>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Leon At least you didn't answer my question with a question. I would take you up on your offer except I'm not concerned with you trusting me or me trusting you....plus there is the time factor. By the time I proved our mutal trust I could have my turbonator installed and reaping my MPG savings.
Alan Baker - 27 Oct 2005 19:36 GMT > >>>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims, > >>>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > our mutal trust I could have my turbonator installed and reaping my > MPG savings. Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics" and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator".
<g>
 Signature Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
XS11E - 27 Oct 2005 20:45 GMT > Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and > "thermodynamics" and then if you're still interested, install your > "turbonator". It might be better if he'd just look at the pictures on their website and, unless he's not paying attention, he'll see that a cheap electric fan installed in the intake track will restrict airflow rather than increase it....
What the turbonator does do and do very well is prove Mr. David Hannum was correct.
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html
Lanny Chambers - 27 Oct 2005 23:40 GMT > Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics" > and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator". Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL." Pretty much the same concept as thermodynamics, but easier to spell.
--- Lanny Chambers '94C, St. Louis http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html
Alan Baker - 28 Oct 2005 00:15 GMT > > Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics" > > and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator". > > Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL." Pretty much the same concept as > thermodynamics, but easier to spell.
:-D
> --- > Lanny Chambers > '94C, St. Louis > http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies.
"-- ", not "---"
Cheers.
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Lanny Chambers - 28 Oct 2005 02:57 GMT > Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that > well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies. Thanks, I didn't know that.
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Alan Baker - 28 Oct 2005 04:52 GMT > > Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that > > well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies. > > Thanks, I didn't know that. My pleasure. <g>
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Lanny Chambers - 28 Oct 2005 03:00 GMT > Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that > well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies. ...although, it only affects people who quote an entire article, rather than highlighting only the relevant part(s) before pressing the Reply key. :-)
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Leon van Dommelen - 28 Oct 2005 01:13 GMT >> Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics" >> and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator". > >Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL." I guess you, like Mr. Heinlein, have not met the creator of the turbonator.
Leon
> Pretty much the same concept as >thermodynamics, but easier to spell.  Signature Leon van Dommelen :) Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .) rammm@dommelen.net http://www.dommelen.net/miata EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)
Grant Edwards - 27 Oct 2005 15:31 GMT >> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't >> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice. > > Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it > claims, why isn't it being put on cars by the factories? Oh, you know, it's been prevented by the trilaterial comission, the big car companies, men in black, the illuminati, grey aliens... the usual cast of characters.
Just for fun: what's a "turbonator"? Is like the the famous "tornado" devices?
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Leon van Dommelen - 28 Oct 2005 01:39 GMT >>> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't >>> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Just for fun: what's a "turbonator"? Is like the the famous >"tornado" devices? It is a blockage that you put in your car's intake to get more air flow. It also gets rid of the many microscopic droplets of fuel that are normally, of course, in liquid form at 800C and refuse to be burned, obstinately, and exit intact to the catalytic converter. The turbonator gets rid of these particles by the slight motion changes the obstruction causes, which, what else, are greatly magnified by frictional effects in the passage through intake, throttle, and intake valves, causing a "tornado" that blasts the droplets apart just like you would blast the droplets of a Florida thunderstorm apart by blowing really, really, hard at them.
Leon
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Grant Edwards - 28 Oct 2005 05:00 GMT >>>> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't >>>> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It is a blockage that you put in your car's intake to get more > air flow. Yea, it's pretty much identical to the "tornado" devices that they used to sell on late night UHF TV stations (hell, maybe they still do, I built a DVR box and don't watch live TV anymore). Just for fun I looked at the turbonator web site. When you read the testimonials, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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