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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / October 2005

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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 04:26 GMT
Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't care
about the HP but the MPG would be nice.

 
Alan Baker - 27 Oct 2005 05:11 GMT
> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't care
> about the HP but the MPG would be nice.

Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?

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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 07:11 GMT
>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?

I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll
spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two.

 
BCRandy - 27 Oct 2005 11:31 GMT
Or why haven't "tuners" been using them?  Or for that
matter, why no magazine articles about them or the "Two Guys
Garage" show been saying how great they are?

> >Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
> >why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?
>
> I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll
> spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two.

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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 13:54 GMT
>Or why haven't "tuners" been using them?  Or for that
>matter, why no magazine articles about them or the "Two Guys
>Garage" show been saying how great they are?

I guess I'll order one and see for myself.

 
Leon van Dommelen - 27 Oct 2005 12:26 GMT
>>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
>>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?
>
>I just wanted to know if anyone had actually tried it....if not I'll
>spring for one and give it a go. Maybe two.

I have tried it, and I have very interesting results.  However, I do
not know whether I should tell publicly in this litigious world.  I think
I need some sign that I can trust you.  Put $100 in cash in an envelope,
and mail it to

   Leon Van Dommelen
   2525 Pottsdamer St. #A229
   Tallahassee, FL 32310

Of course, I will mail the money right back to you.  It is just to see
that you trust me so that I can trust you.

Leon
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Tex - 27 Oct 2005 14:02 GMT
>>>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
>>>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Leon

At least you didn't answer my question with a question. I would take
you up on your offer except I'm not concerned with you trusting me or
me trusting you....plus there is the time factor. By the time I proved
our mutal trust I could have my turbonator installed and reaping my
MPG savings.

 
Alan Baker - 27 Oct 2005 19:36 GMT
> >>>Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it claims,
> >>>why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> our mutal trust I could have my turbonator installed and reaping my
> MPG savings.

Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics"
and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator".

<g>

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"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
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if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

XS11E - 27 Oct 2005 20:45 GMT
> Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and
> "thermodynamics" and then if you're still interested, install your
> "turbonator".

It might be better if he'd just look at the pictures on their website
and, unless he's not paying attention, he'll see that a cheap electric
fan installed in the intake track will restrict airflow rather than
increase it....

What the turbonator does do and do very well is prove Mr. David Hannum
was correct.

http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html
Lanny Chambers - 27 Oct 2005 23:40 GMT
> Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics"
> and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator".

Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL." Pretty much the same concept as
thermodynamics, but easier to spell.

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Alan Baker - 28 Oct 2005 00:15 GMT
> > Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics"
> > and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator".
>
> Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL." Pretty much the same concept as
> thermodynamics, but easier to spell.

:-D

> ---
> Lanny Chambers
> '94C, St. Louis
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that
well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies.

"-- ", not "---"

Cheers.

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Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Lanny Chambers - 28 Oct 2005 02:57 GMT
> Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that
> well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

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Alan Baker - 28 Oct 2005 04:52 GMT
> > Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that
> > well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies.
>
> Thanks, I didn't know that.

My pleasure. <g>

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Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Lanny Chambers - 28 Oct 2005 03:00 GMT
> Lanny, two hyphens (dashes) and a space make a proper sig delimiter that
> well-written newsclients will automatically trim from replies.

...although, it only affects people who quote an entire article, rather
than highlighting only the relevant part(s) before pressing the Reply
key.  :-)

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Leon van Dommelen - 28 Oct 2005 01:13 GMT
>> Study up on "catalytic convertor", stoichiometric, and "thermodynamics"
>> and then if you're still interested, install your "turbonator".
>
>Nah, just google "TANSTAAFL."

I guess you, like Mr. Heinlein, have not met the creator of the turbonator.

Leon

> Pretty much the same concept as
>thermodynamics, but easier to spell.
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Grant Edwards - 27 Oct 2005 15:31 GMT
>> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't
>> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice.
>
> Ask yourself: If a device that simple could really do what it
> claims, why isn't it being put on cars by the factories?

Oh, you know, it's been prevented by the trilaterial comission,
the big car companies, men in black, the illuminati, grey
aliens... the usual cast of characters.

Just for fun: what's a "turbonator"?  Is like the the famous
"tornado" devices?

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Leon van Dommelen - 28 Oct 2005 01:39 GMT
>>> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't
>>> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice.
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>Just for fun: what's a "turbonator"?  Is like the the famous
>"tornado" devices?

It is a blockage that you put in your car's intake to get more
air flow.  It also gets rid of the many microscopic droplets of
fuel that are normally, of course, in liquid form at 800C and
refuse to be burned, obstinately, and exit intact to the catalytic
converter.  The turbonator gets rid of these particles by the
slight motion changes the obstruction causes, which, what else,
are greatly magnified by frictional effects in the passage
through intake, throttle, and intake valves, causing a "tornado"
that blasts the droplets apart just like you would blast the
droplets of a Florida thunderstorm apart by blowing really,
really, hard at them.

Leon
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Grant Edwards - 28 Oct 2005 05:00 GMT
>>>> Ok has anyone actually put a turbonator on a miata? I wouldn't
>>>> care about the HP but the MPG would be nice.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> It is a blockage that you put in your car's intake to get more
> air flow.

Yea, it's pretty much identical to the "tornado" devices that
they used to sell on late night UHF TV stations (hell, maybe
they still do, I built a DVR box and don't watch live TV
anymore).  Just for fun I looked at the turbonator web site.
When you read the testimonials, you don't know whether to laugh
or cry.

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