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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / November 2005

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Tony - 31 Oct 2005 17:46 GMT
I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my '96
with something that you can actually hear with the top down, and
preferably with some kind of connection for an iPod - any suggestions
out there?

ToplessTony
Chris D'Agnolo - 01 Nov 2005 00:11 GMT
Tony,

There's an item in the "new and hot" section on miata.net, they call it:
Audio Link from I.L. Motorsport, I believe it uses the input connection
usually used by the remote 6 disk in the back of the unit. Don't know if
this helps you. If you can do headrest speakers, I recomend the MAX-5
speakers, they're as good sounding as they are reasonable in price.

Good luck,
Chris
92BB&T

> I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my '96 with
> something that you can actually hear with the top down, and preferably
> with some kind of connection for an iPod - any suggestions out there?
>
> ToplessTony
XS11E - 01 Nov 2005 04:48 GMT
> I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my
> '96 with something that you can actually hear with the top down,

I have no problems hearing my standard casette radio and speakers in my
1992 at freeway speeds up to 75mph.  Just turn up the headrest speakers
as far as the knob will allow and lean back...

BTW, I'm mostly deaf but have no trouble hearing the radio, have you
had a hearing check recently?  Is it possible you might be developing
some hearing loss?

> and preferably with some kind of connection for an iPod - any
> suggestions out there?

Well, that explains the hearing loss.... ;-)
Frank Berger - 01 Nov 2005 05:39 GMT
>> I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my
>> '96 with something that you can actually hear with the top down,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Well, that explains the hearing loss.... ;-)

I have a 96+.  with stock cassette/radio and door speakers.  I added
Infinity 3.5" headrest speakers and find them to be essentially  useless.
As I increase the fade to the HR speakers I have to turn the volume up,
ending up pretty much where I started, unless I slouch down and press my
head against the headrest (I am not tall, by the way - only 5'9").  I can
listen to talk radio with the volume cranked to max, but music is pretty
pointless.
XS11E - 01 Nov 2005 05:43 GMT
> I have a 96+.  with stock cassette/radio and door speakers.  I
> added Infinity 3.5" headrest speakers and find them to be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> not tall, by the way - only 5'9").  I can listen to talk radio
> with the volume cranked to max, but music is pretty pointless.

I have the stock headrest speakers, no problems.  I set the door
speakers in the middle of the adjustment and the headrest speakers to
max, I've never had to turn the volume all the way up so I must confess  
I'm very puzzled by what I'm reading here?????
Frank Berger - 01 Nov 2005 22:30 GMT
>> I have a 96+.  with stock cassette/radio and door speakers.  I
>> added Infinity 3.5" headrest speakers and find them to be
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> max, I've never had to turn the volume all the way up so I must confess
> I'm very puzzled by what I'm reading here?????

Now I'm puzzled.  On my stock late '96 cassette radio, there is a volume
adjustment and a fader.  No separate settings for front and rear.  Unless
you mean the volume in the middle and and fader to max headrest.  At that
setting, I can pretty much not hear the headrest speakers, like I said,
unless I scrunch down.  Maybe there is an impedence mismatch between the
stock door speakers and the Infinity headrest speakers.  I don't know.
XS11E - 03 Nov 2005 01:56 GMT
>> I have the stock headrest speakers, no problems.  I set the door
>> speakers in the middle of the adjustment and the headrest
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> rear.  Unless you mean the volume in the middle and and fader to
> max headrest.

According to the manual and the markings on the knobs, the on/off knob
controls volume, the rear knob with the little lever controls volume of
the headrest speakers only, it's not a fader like most radios have
because it doesn't affect the volume of the door speakers.

It's a very different radio in many ways, notice there's no dimming of
the radio lights with the dash light adjustment, you can only turn the
radio lights on and off... very weird.

Other weirdness: the cruise control loses it's speed setting if the
speed drops under 25mph, if you slow way down for some reason you can't
use the resume, you have to get up to speed and set it again.  I really
don't like that at all, I'd like it to retain the setting like other
cars do.

The electrics are not like any other car I've ever had but this is my
first Mazda.
Frank Berger - 03 Nov 2005 17:25 GMT
>>> I have the stock headrest speakers, no problems.  I set the door
>>> speakers in the middle of the adjustment and the headrest
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> the headrest speakers only, it's not a fader like most radios have
> because it doesn't affect the volume of the door speakers.

One mystery solved. This is not my OEM unit.  Couldn't find a picture
on-line.

.
XS11E - 04 Nov 2005 05:19 GMT
>> According to the manual and the markings on the knobs, the on/off
>> knob controls volume, the rear knob with the little lever
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> One mystery solved. This is not my OEM unit.  Couldn't find a
> picture on-line.

Here's mine from the owner's manual:

http://members.cox.net/xs11e/radio.jpg
Frank Berger - 04 Nov 2005 09:44 GMT
>>> According to the manual and the markings on the knobs, the on/off
>>> knob controls volume, the rear knob with the little lever
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> http://members.cox.net/xs11e/radio.jpg

I believe this radio was used in the early '96 models and earlier and
required the Anderson fix or the headrest speakers. There are three listings
of your exact radio on e-bay that all say it is for the 90-97 Miata, but I
think that is wrong.
Leon van Dommelen - 04 Nov 2005 13:24 GMT
>>>> According to the manual and the markings on the knobs, the on/off
>>>> knob controls volume, the rear knob with the little lever
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>I believe this radio was used in the early '96 models and earlier and

Yes.

>required the Anderson fix or the headrest speakers. There are three listings
>of your exact radio on e-bay that all say it is for the 90-97 Miata, but I
>think that is wrong.

Leon
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XS11E - 04 Nov 2005 22:17 GMT
> I believe this radio was used in the early '96 models and earlier
> and required the Anderson fix or the headrest speakers.

Mine's a 1992.  The radio isn't the original one but according to
the owners manual is an exact replacement.  The headrest speakers
work fine, don't know what the Anderson fix is?

> There are three listings of your exact radio on e-bay that all say
> it is for the 90-97 Miata, but I think that is wrong.

I think 90-97 is correct.  During that time optional sound systems were
offered but I think that's the standard radio.
Frank Berger - 04 Nov 2005 23:11 GMT
>> I believe this radio was used in the early '96 models and earlier
>> and required the Anderson fix or the headrest speakers.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I think 90-97 is correct.  During that time optional sound systems were
> offered but I think that's the standard radio.

No, the base  the OEM cassette/radio changed midway through the '96 model
year.  I have a late '96, hence the different radio.  My  base '96 came
without headreast speakers, but the wiring was in place.  Whatever the
wiring problem was that required the Anderson fix to hear the headrest
speakers (this can be looked up on miata.net if you're interested), it was
supposedly unncesessary  starting with the radio switch.

I was fiddling the the radio today and I may have mischaraterized the
"problem."  I can set the volume/fader settings such that I can hear the
headrest speakers fine.  But there is no setting where I can also hear the
door speakers.  In other words, if I can hear the headrest speakers, I get
no base.  If  I get base, I can't hear the headrest speakers.
Frank Berger - 06 Nov 2005 21:51 GMT
>>> I believe this radio was used in the early '96 models and earlier
>>> and required the Anderson fix or the headrest speakers.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> door speakers.  In other words, if I can hear the headrest speakers, I get
> no base.  If  I get base, I can't hear the headrest speakers.

Finally found a picture of my OEM radio/cassette unit.

http://www.miata.net/garage/97hondaCDP.html

Mine is mounted at the top of the double din opening with the cubby
underneath.  What I would like to do is fit a Ford radio/cd/cassette double
din unit in there.  These are available on ebay.  But I don't know what
modifactions would be necessary to fit it and wire it.
XS11E - 06 Nov 2005 22:08 GMT
> What I would like to do is fit a Ford radio/cd/cassette double din
> unit in there.  These are available on ebay.  But I don't know
> what modifactions would be necessary to fit it and wire it.

No mods to wire it, you can probably get a kit on ebay to plug one to
the other.  As far as fitting it, you'd lose the cubby if you install a
double DIN unit, you can keep the cubby with a 1 1/2 din unit.  I'd do
w/o a radio before I'd do w/o the cubby but fitting it shouldn't be too
hard, a Ford is a Ford is a Ford even if it says Lincoln, Mercury,
Jaguar, Aston Martin, Volvo, Mazda or Land Rover on the front!
Frank Berger - 07 Nov 2005 19:30 GMT
>> What I would like to do is fit a Ford radio/cd/cassette double din
>> unit in there.  These are available on ebay.  But I don't know
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> hard, a Ford is a Ford is a Ford even if it says Lincoln, Mercury,
> Jaguar, Aston Martin, Volvo, Mazda or Land Rover on the front!

Well, some of those Ford radios (like theMiata) are supported from the side
(the ones with holes) and some from the bottom.  I don't know what kind of
framing mods  I would have to maketo put a double din unit into my car.
Leon van Dommelen - 01 Nov 2005 13:37 GMT
>>> I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my
>>> '96 with something that you can actually hear with the top down,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>listen to talk radio with the volume cranked to max, but music is pretty
>pointless.

Did you do the head rest rewiring fix.  The headrest speakers on my 96
were completely miswired and inaudible.  They did not even produce both
stereo sides.

Leon
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Frank Berger - 01 Nov 2005 22:23 GMT
>>>> I'd like to upgrade the standard casette radio and speakers on my
>>>> '96 with something that you can actually hear with the top down,
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> were completely miswired and inaudible.  They did not even produce both
> stereo sides.

Supposedly my late '96 doesn't need the fix.
 
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