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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / January 2006

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Cost of a 1.6L long block

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BillBetts - 12 Jan 2006 22:39 GMT
Just got a quote from a San Jose, CA dealer for $3,900 for the factory
rebuilt long block.  $1,500 for labor.

Four years ago, I did the same thing.  Factory long block replacement
for $2,700 parts and labor.

Seems like I'm getting ripped off.

Anybody done this recently?  What did it cost?

I thought 1.6 motors were relatively cheap due to Spec Miata's creating
a lot of demand.

Thanks, Bill
Chuck - 12 Jan 2006 23:15 GMT
A "Lot of demand" indicates a higher price, not a lower one!
Naturally, there are discounts if you are a member of the racing community.
Poking around the internet, $3600-6000 gets you a "built" long block for
racing.
I don't know where the "Spec" 1.6 falls in the price range.

> Just got a quote from a San Jose, CA dealer for $3,900 for the factory
> rebuilt long block.  $1,500 for labor.
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>
> Thanks, Bill
beater 90 miata - 13 Jan 2006 21:01 GMT
> Naturally, there are discounts if you are a member of the racing community.

True. Factory (stock - not spec built) long block can be had at close
to dealer cost, which is under $2000.

But the original poster's 2nd engine only lasted 4 years? I would think
a $500-600 used engine would do better than that.

For the $5500 that his dealer wanted, he might as well go buy the whole
used 1.6  miata and have money left over.
Lanny Chambers - 13 Jan 2006 23:29 GMT
> For the $5500 that his dealer wanted, he might as well go buy the whole
> used 1.6  miata and have money left over.

For $5500, he could step up to a very nice 1.8.

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'94C, St. Louis
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Jon Dough - 21 Jan 2006 07:32 GMT
>> For the $5500 that his dealer wanted, he might as well go buy the whole
>> used 1.6  miata and have money left over.
>
> For $5500, he could step up to a very nice 1.8.

Speaking of which, how much trouble is it to change to a 1.8 from a 1.6?
Is it simply a bolt in job, or is there much more that has to be changed?
Will the 1.8's just drop in the same place but the same manifolds and ECU
be used?  Or is it better to do a complete swap, using newer 1.8 engine,
wiring harness and ECU?
TIA
XS11E - 21 Jan 2006 15:34 GMT
> Speaking of which, how much trouble is it to change to a 1.8 from
> a 1.6? Is it simply a bolt in job, or is there much more that has
> to be changed? Will the 1.8's just drop in the same place but the
> same manifolds and ECU be used?  Or is it better to do a complete
> swap, using newer 1.8 engine, wiring harness and ECU?

Somewhere on the web there is a complete series of webpages showing how
to do exactly that.  Google will find it for you.
Lanny Chambers - 21 Jan 2006 15:37 GMT
> Speaking of which, how much trouble is it to change to a 1.8 from a 1.6?
> Is it simply a bolt in job, or is there much more that has to be changed?

All questions answered:
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/1.8_conversion.php

FM sells a kit of all the parts you'd need for the conversion.

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'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Alan Baker - 14 Jan 2006 00:01 GMT
> Just got a quote from a San Jose, CA dealer for $3,900 for the factory
> rebuilt long block.  $1,500 for labor.
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>
> Thanks, Bill

For that kind of money you can get a long block from Flyin' Miata with
all kinds of goodies...

<URL:http://www.flyinmiata.com/Store/engines.php?option=0>

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Vancouver, British Columbia
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to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

 
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