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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / September 2007

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pws - 03 Sep 2007 03:25 GMT
I have been running 10-30 Mobil One since I bought my Miata. It is
turbocharged.

A friend gave me 12 quarts of 15-50 Mobil One. Would using this cause
any problems?

Thanks!

Pat
XS11E - 03 Sep 2007 05:45 GMT
> I have been running 10-30 Mobil One since I bought my Miata. It is
> turbocharged.
>
> A friend gave me 12 quarts of 15-50 Mobil One. Would using this
> cause any problems?

Seems a teeny bit heavy but you live in a fairly warm climate and w/o
very cold starts it should be OK.  Your're not planning to move to
Minnesota are you? ;-)

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pws - 03 Sep 2007 14:02 GMT
> Seems a teeny bit heavy but you live in a fairly warm climate and w/o
> very cold starts it should be OK.

We have a pretty large range here, but really cold days are rare and
only happen for a month or two.

> Your're not planning to move to Minnesota are you? ;-)

No, though Washington is still a possibility depending on a few things.
I probably should not use it there.

Thanks!

Pat
Chris D'Agnolo - 03 Sep 2007 05:54 GMT
Pat, I believe 20W 50 is a pretty popular weight, I wouldn't think it would
be a problem but, let's see what other folks with more technical knowledge
have to say about it. The price is right, that's fo' sho'!

Chris
99BBB (needing an oil change, I think)

>I have been running 10-30 Mobil One since I bought my Miata. It is
>turbocharged.
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>
> Pat
Chuck - 03 Sep 2007 17:17 GMT
Just watch the turbo for proper lubrication. Many have a reducing orifice
that might need to be resized a small amount.
Naturally, guessing wrong can involve a turbo rebuild.

> I have been running 10-30 Mobil One since I bought my Miata. It is
> turbocharged.
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>
> Pat
pws - 03 Sep 2007 17:43 GMT
> Just watch the turbo for proper lubrication. Many have a reducing orifice
> that might need to be resized a small amount.
> Naturally, guessing wrong can involve a turbo rebuild.

The guy who set up my car knew a lot more about turbos than I do, I
think I will keep using the 10-30.
The 15-50 can go into a OTM sometime down the road.

Just curious, what do people in cold climates tend to run in their
Miatas, either with a turbo or not?

Thanks,

Pat
Chuck - 04 Sep 2007 03:20 GMT
Non turbo cold climate 5w30, really cold, a Mobile Synthetic for really cold
weather. (Forgot what they call it.)
In the dark ages, before non lead gas and multigrade oil, some cars had a
dilution system that mixed gas with the oil right before you shutdown the
engine. Last time I saw this (in the late 50s was on an early 50s Pontiac
straight 8. Or was it 6, don't remember)The car was traded for a then new 59
Pontiac.
> > Just watch the turbo for proper lubrication. Many have a reducing orifice
> > that might need to be resized a small amount.
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>
> Pat
pws - 04 Sep 2007 04:04 GMT
> Non turbo cold climate 5w30, really cold, a Mobile Synthetic for really cold
> weather. (Forgot what they call it.)

Would you go with something like a 15-40 or a 10-40 in a place like
central Texas?

> In the dark ages, before non lead gas and multigrade oil, some cars had a
> dilution system that mixed gas with the oil right before you shutdown the
> engine. Last time I saw this (in the late 50s was on an early 50s Pontiac
> straight 8. Or was it 6, don't remember)The car was traded for a then new 59
> Pontiac.

Wow! You are one of the few people I have encountered who can look back
that far and yet still understand today's cars.

Pat
BRUCE HASKIN - 04 Sep 2007 04:19 GMT
NOW Pat !!! You know I can go back to that time ! How many of you out
there say you owned a (stock) 1936 to 1940 car? I even had a 1932 Ford 3
window coupe and a 1941 Merc 4 door "flat head" .  OH, and I can still
walk with out a walker too .  :-)

     Bruce     Bing    '03  LS
XS11E - 04 Sep 2007 04:32 GMT
> NOW Pat !!! You know I can go back to that time ! How many of you
> out there say you owned a (stock) 1936 to 1940 car? I even had a
> 1932 Ford 3 window coupe and a 1941 Merc 4 door "flat head"

Me.  Learned to drive in an 1937 LaSalle, my first car was a 1930 Ford
Model "A" Roadster.

> and I can still walk with out a walker too .  :-)

Got me beat there! :-(

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pws - 04 Sep 2007 04:52 GMT
> Got me beat there! :-(

It sounds like you are pretty active, and you drive the world's funnest
roadster. You even have the sense to drive a white one. :-)

Considering that our society sh.ts on the elderly rather than honor and
revere them as we should, you are doing ok as far as I can tell.

When I see you start taking crap from people, THEN I will know that
there is a problem. ;-)

Pat
XS11E - 04 Sep 2007 05:06 GMT
>> Got me beat there! :-(
>
> It sounds like you are pretty active, and you drive the world's
> funnest roadster. You even have the sense to drive a white one.
> :-)

My main ride is blue.

http://members.cox.net/xs11e/Celebrity.jpg

I'm wondering if I paint it white will it go faster?  Of course it
will!  In a fit of idiocy I also picked up a black Cyclone, it's the
same thing as the Celebrity and looks exactly like it but has a
different motor and a "turbo" switch that kicks the max speed up to 8
mph which is pretty exciting on a 3 wheeler!  Now I gotta figure out
how to disable the magnetic switch that cuts out the boost in a
turn......    

> Considering that our society sh.ts on the elderly rather than
> honor and revere them as we should, you are doing ok as far as I
> can tell.

I wanna be honored and revered, that sounds GREAT!  Does it involve me
getting money?

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pws - 04 Sep 2007 15:07 GMT
> My main ride is blue.
>
> http://members.cox.net/xs11e/Celebrity.jpg
>
> I'm wondering if I paint it white will it go faster?  

Is this a trick question? Of course it will, you just need to wear as
much white as possible.
I am so pale that my white, pasty skin might give me another 1 mph,
especially with more skin being exposed on the head each day.

> Of course it will!  

Ahh, came to your senses. This is all well-established scientific facts
by Leon.

> In a fit of idiocy I also picked up a black Cyclone, it's the
> same thing as the Celebrity and looks exactly like it but has a
> different motor and a "turbo" switch that kicks the max speed up to 8
> mph which is pretty exciting on a 3 wheeler!  Now I gotta figure out
> how to disable the magnetic switch that cuts out the boost in a
> turn......    

8 mph is zipping along nicely. Disabling the switch could be, ahem,
exciting.....

> I wanna be honored and revered, that sounds GREAT!  Does it involve me
> getting money?

You ARE honored and revered, but the money has to wait until it arrives
from West Africa.
My money is currently "invested", but the profits will be huge, so I
will have a lot to spare, eventually.

Pat
pws - 04 Sep 2007 04:37 GMT
> NOW Pat !!! You know I can go back to that time ! How many of you out
> there say you owned a (stock) 1936 to 1940 car? I even had a 1932 Ford 3
> window coupe and a 1941 Merc 4 door "flat head" .  OH, and I can still
> walk with out a walker too .  :-)
>
>       Bruce     Bing    '03  LS

Oh man, sorry about that!
As one who is far older than dirt, along with being up to date on modern
cars, you are certainly included in the small group that I mentioned. ;-)

Pat
pltrgyst - 04 Sep 2007 04:58 GMT
>> In the dark ages, before non lead gas and multigrade oil, some cars had a
>> dilution system that mixed gas with the oil right before you shutdown the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Wow! You are one of the few people I have encountered who can look back
>that far and yet still understand today's cars.

Geez, Pat, you ought to some of the old farts at your next autocross or track
day. There are a lot of us around.  8;)

-- Larry

(started out with a '54 Dodge,and a '57 Plymouth convertible; present list:

-2006 WCM UltraLite (Lotus Super 7 clone, S-2000 powertrain)
-2002 325i (sports pkg, etc., wife's daily driver)
-1995 Miata R (+ Borla, short shifter, etc., 4-wheel commuter)
-1980 TR8 (Holley 4-bbl, etc.)
-1975 Lola 342 FF
-1972 Elden FF
-2002 Honda 919 (daily commuter)
-2001 Aprilia Falco (fun bike)
-1995 Honda Interceptor 500 (small emergency back-up bike)
-2006 Ford cargo van hauler
-24 foot Wells Cargo car trailer
)
pws - 04 Sep 2007 14:57 GMT
> Geez, Pat, you ought to some of the old farts at your next autocross or track
> day. There are a lot of us around.  8;)
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> -2006 Ford cargo van hauler
> -24 foot Wells Cargo car trailer

You have all of that now? I wouldn't be able to keep up with the
registrations, insurance, or where the things were parked.

You aren't looking to adopt a grown man with a child's mind are you? I
am available. ;-)

Pat
pltrgyst - 05 Sep 2007 17:08 GMT
>> -2006 WCM UltraLite (Lotus Super 7 clone, S-2000 powertrain)
>> -2002 325i (sports pkg, etc., wife's daily driver)
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>You aren't looking to adopt a grown man with a child's mind are you? I
>am available. ;-)

My wife says she's got one already, thank you.  8;)

The TR-8 and the Interceptor are going bye-bye next week. Starting to cut back
for anticipated retirement. The Aprilia will be next -- my back doesn't like the
riding position any more. 8;(

-- Larry
pws - 05 Sep 2007 19:58 GMT
> My wife says she's got one already, thank you.  8;)

Damn! Can't blame a guy for trying...

> The TR-8 and the Interceptor are going bye-bye next week. Starting to cut back
> for anticipated retirement. The Aprilia will be next -- my back doesn't like the
> riding position any more. 8;(
>
> -- Larry

What I really want is that Ford Van. It would be the perfect compliment
to my miata.

I imagine that the 2006 model is a bit different than the 1982 party
Econoline E-100 that was my first vehicle in 1986 or 1987. I remember
replacing the sway bars on that van, I guess I have been a suspension
freak since the beginning. :-)

Pat
Chuck - 08 Sep 2007 20:04 GMT
Actually, those are my remarks. Perhaps I understand a few things here and
there because--
In my "salad" days, I worked part time for a shop out in the sticks that
rebuilt or repaired everything from cars, trucks, and farm equipment, to
single engine fabric covered A/C. It's hard not to learn something when you
have licensed experts in multiple fields available. (FAA inspectors,
Instructors, Examiners, A&E mechanics, Certified master welders, A/C
Riggers, full machine shop, etc.  If that isn't enough, how about thirty
years or so in the industrial and military electronics field.  Anything from
computer controlled industrial systems to military aircraft electronic
warfare systems.

Having said that, I really do not like current car design. To complicated,
too expensive to fix, and not as reliable.
When they quit they really quit. Or problems occur that even the factory
techs cannot figure out. Parts swapping is too prevailent.

> >> In the dark ages, before non lead gas and multigrade oil, some cars had a
> >> dilution system that mixed gas with the oil right before you shutdown the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> -24 foot Wells Cargo car trailer
> )
XS11E - 04 Sep 2007 04:34 GMT
> Non turbo cold climate 5w30, really cold, a Mobile Synthetic for
> really cold weather. (Forgot what they call it.)
> In the dark ages, before non lead gas and multigrade oil, some
> cars had a dilution system that mixed gas with the oil right
> before you shutdown the engine. Last time I saw this (in the late
> 50s was on an early 50s Pontiac straight 8.

I don't recall that at all, I had a 1949 Pontiac Straight 8 but it
didn't have that, was it an add on?

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Chuck - 05 Sep 2007 04:06 GMT
Yes, for very cold climates. There was a small pump mounted under the dash.
It looked much like the priming pump used on some small aircraft.

> > Non turbo cold climate 5w30, really cold, a Mobile Synthetic for
> > really cold weather. (Forgot what they call it.)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I don't recall that at all, I had a 1949 Pontiac Straight 8 but it
> didn't have that, was it an add on?
XS11E - 05 Sep 2007 04:41 GMT
> Yes, for very cold climates. There was a small pump mounted under
> the dash. It looked much like the priming pump used on some small
> aircraft.

Don't recall ever seeing one, that's weird.  

I do recall a Packard V12 (1925, I think?) with priming cups on each
cylinder, you filled 'em with gas, opened the valve to let the gas run
into each cylinder and then cranked the engine.  With luck it would
start.....

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