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OT>The Spoofing Poster
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Jazz_Azz - 17 Jan 2008 16:51 GMT Well folks after reporting this clown to Google Grps. Abuse, I notice that they are no longer showing any new ones on Google grps, somehow blocking them. BUT when I accessed this grp., however Webtv does it, on my Webtv unit (Yes I still enjoy using that for the Firewalled WTV grps.) I notice that he is still disrupting the grp. They could still be seen there (His newer ones). So if any of you know how to get him blocked on Usenet, I am sure that your efforts would be appreciated.
SINNER - 17 Jan 2008 17:34 GMT * Jazz_Azz wrote in rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata:
> Well folks after reporting this clown to Google Grps. Abuse, I notice > that they are no longer showing any new ones on Google grps, somehow [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be seen there (His newer ones). So if any of you know how to get him > blocked on Usenet, I am sure that your efforts would be appreciated. Google rarely reacts to this stuff. Its going on in MANY MANY groups currently. If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post to more than one group.
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Lanny Chambers - 17 Jan 2008 22:14 GMT > If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post > to more than one group. Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam.
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Chris D'Agnolo - 18 Jan 2008 03:48 GMT Can ya'all tell me what the hell happened to the posts here starting around 1-14-08 or 1-15-08? Is it a virus or something like that or something to do with this cross posting issue you mention here?
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>> If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post >> to more than one group. > > Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header > contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam. SINNER - 18 Jan 2008 18:19 GMT * Chris D'Agnolo wrote in rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata:
> Can ya'all tell me what the hell happened to the posts here starting > around 1-14-08 or 1-15-08? Is it a virus or something like that or > something to do with this cross posting issue you mention here? Its called sporge, welcome to Usenet. Its a kid playing with a new toy being circulated to bring the downfall of Usenet. Just ignore it.
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Jim - 19 Jan 2008 04:37 GMT >Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header >contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam. Perhaps here that applies. In technical groups it is common to crosspost to more than one group if all cover the topic. Of course, it is also appropriate to have been reading all those groups to be sure that the post is not off topic in them.
When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6 months before posting.
Jim
Lanny Chambers - 19 Jan 2008 05:14 GMT > When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6 > months before posting. Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all.
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Chris D'Agnolo - 19 Jan 2008 18:16 GMT Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean?
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>> When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6 >> months before posting. > > Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all. Lanny Chambers - 19 Jan 2008 23:45 GMT > Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean? > > >> When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6 > >> months before posting. > > > > Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all. If they were able to read, surely they would also be able to write well enough to be understood. Q.E.D. (Not to mention LOL, FTW, and WTF.)
Mr. Cheer, eh? I like that.
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Chris D'Agnolo - 20 Jan 2008 15:19 GMT Well, I'll just show you how ignorant I am (I'm not admitting stupidity, but ignorance), I've been reading this group for .......... well, a long time and I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D.". It took me forever to figure out what LOL means, WTF comes to me fairly naturally (sorry to say) and I don't remember seeing FTW used, nor do I know what it would infer if I do see it used. Enlighten me if you will. I'm always interested in wiping out ignorance where ever possible (stupidity on the other hand well, that would be impossible!).
TIA Mr. Cheer (I thought you might LOL on that one ;-) Chris 99BBB
>> Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Mr. Cheer, eh? I like that. Lanny Chambers - 20 Jan 2008 15:44 GMT > I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D." It's the abbreviation for "quod erat demonstrandum," Latin for "thus it is proven" and the traditional last line of a geometry proof or logic syllogism. A scholarly version of "neener-neener" if you will.
As for the others, I was making fun of the semi-literate whose posts consist entirely of currently-faddish acronyms. Presumably, they are evidence of belonging to an "in" group. Since you and I will never be part of such a group, we're not supposed to understand. :-)
Wikipedia is a good reference for acronyms and other arcana of transient modern culture.
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pws - 20 Jan 2008 22:08 GMT > As for the others, I was making fun of the semi-literate whose posts > consist entirely of currently-faddish acronyms. Presumably, they are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Wikipedia is a good reference for acronyms and other arcana of transient > modern culture. Hey Mr. Cheer,
I'm not sure about it being an "in" group, as much as it being the first generation that is growing up where communicating online is something that has always been around during their lifetime.
I have watched my daughter chat online and they can exchange a huge amount of data with very few keystrokes. It seems semi-literate to an old fogie like me, even though I know many acronyms, but they are having no trouble understanding each other.
Many of the acronyms have been used regularly since I have been online. How long must they be used before they are no longer transient or currently-faddish? :-)
Pat
Lanny Chambers - 20 Jan 2008 23:39 GMT > I have watched my daughter chat online and they can exchange a huge > amount of data with very few keystrokes. I am reminded of frogs around a pond, croaking just to let the other frogs know they're still alive. Not sophisticated and erudite discourse, such as we practice here. <ahem>
Old people chatting are just as bad. They use real English, but all they talk about is their ailments, or going to funerals.
> Many of the acronyms have been used regularly since I have been online. > How long must they be used before they are no longer transient or > currently-faddish? :-) After our passing, one can only hope. Acronyms have their place, and the useful ones have staying power (FWIW, BTW, SWMBO). But don't you think the others lose some meaning in statements such as "Yuo su'X ftw. Im g0nna brake u'r neck lol."
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pws - 21 Jan 2008 01:31 GMT > I am reminded of frogs around a pond, croaking just to let the other > frogs know they're still alive. Not sophisticated and erudite discourse, > such as we practice here. <ahem> I am not suggesting that anything too sophisticated was being transmitted, but this is an entirely new phenomenon, much like the phone was. There are a few nerds, (nerds in a good way), on here that have been using online communication for quite some time, but it is a fairly recent thing for most people.
> Old people chatting are just as bad. They use real English, but all they > talk about is their ailments, or going to funerals. I still get to hear the occasional WW2 story. Good stuff there... ;-)
> After our passing, one can only hope. Acronyms have their place, and the > useful ones have staying power (FWIW, BTW, SWMBO). But don't you think > the others lose some meaning in statements such as "Yuo su'X ftw. Im > g0nna brake u'r neck lol." Gotcha, I saw lots of "OMG" and "BF".... OMG and a few others actually being used in place of speech by a lot of people, which is a little scary.
Pat
Lanny Chambers - 21 Jan 2008 03:53 GMT > OMG and a few others actually being used in place of speech by a lot of > people, which is a little scary. And to think, years ago we were concerned that younger generations would take our jobs from us. Fat chance, assuming one's job requires writing precise, unambiguous English. Note that youngsters never complain that old farts' writing is hard to understand.
Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm hopeless.
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pws - 22 Jan 2008 18:38 GMT > And to think, years ago we were concerned that younger generations would > take our jobs from us. Fat chance, assuming one's job requires writing > precise, unambiguous English. Note that youngsters never complain that > old farts' writing is hard to understand. Oh ye of little faith. ;-)
I may be biased, but my offspring is an upgrade from the two that produced her. (insert your own joke here). She seems to be more naive than I was at her age, but if she is an indication of what is coming up, then we will be in good hands.
> Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has > neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while > ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm > hopeless. Hey, don't feel so bad. I have a cell, but it is my only phone. No iPod, no cable TV, and I still listen to music on a Panasonic boom box that I bought in 1989. Also, no DVD player except for the one in my computer, which is an aging collection of free spare parts that should have never come to life, but somehow did.....
Pat - also hopeless
Carbon - 26 Jan 2008 12:01 GMT
> Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has > neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while > ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm > hopeless. No cell phone. That is excellent. I actually liked the first phone I had: no camera, no extra junk, just a little flip-phone with a good battery and caller-ID on the outside. After I lost that one I could not find a replacement with as few features, at least not for free from the cell phone provider. Now I have some stupid Nokia with every imaginable bell and whistle. I hate the damned thing.
What records?
Jazz_Azz - 26 Jan 2008 16:59 GMT > > Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has > > neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > What records? Got my cell from T-Mobile when I hooked up with their Pre-paid service, the BEST ONE of all of them. Bought reasonably priced a Samsung T209, little flip phone that is a basic phone, with caller ID on the outside, similar to what described. They may still have them. That was Feb 2007.
Lanny Chambers - 26 Jan 2008 17:09 GMT >> I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. > > What records? IIRC, it was some Arthur Fiedler/Boston Pops on RCA. I have hundreds of LPs from the golden age of stereo, 1958-63. My turntable and phono preamp are worth more than my Miata.
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pws - 27 Jan 2008 12:00 GMT > My turntable and phono preamp are worth more than my Miata. A mildly modified 1994 Miata with over 140,000 miles has a blue book value of approximately $12.75, you can add $30.00 if the gas tank is full. ;-)
How much is that phono and preamp worth again?
Pat
Leon van Dommelen - 20 Jan 2008 23:37 GMT Hey Mr. Cheer,
>> I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D." > > It's the abbreviation for "quod erat demonstrandum," Latin for "thus it > is proven" and the traditional last line of a geometry proof or logic > syllogism. A scholarly version of "neener-neener" if you will. Actually, without looking it up, (GF), I though it stood for "what was to be proven," not "thus it is proven." Of course, every listener to the proof recognizes that it has been proven. It is just a reminder that it is the starting question, so we are finished.
Leon
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Chris D'Agnolo - 21 Jan 2008 01:14 GMT Well it's entertaining just being in the same newsgroup with so much intelligence ;-) Here I thought we were talking about English and I find out we're also talking Latin!
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> Hey Mr. Cheer, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Leon
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