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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / January 2008

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OT>The Spoofing Poster

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Jazz_Azz - 17 Jan 2008 16:51 GMT
Well folks after reporting this clown to Google Grps. Abuse, I notice
that they are no longer showing any new ones on Google grps, somehow
blocking them. BUT when I accessed this grp., however Webtv does it,
on my Webtv unit (Yes I still enjoy using that for the Firewalled WTV
grps.) I notice that he is still disrupting the grp. They could still
be seen there (His newer ones). So if any of you know how to get him
blocked on Usenet, I am sure that your efforts would be appreciated.
SINNER - 17 Jan 2008 17:34 GMT
* Jazz_Azz wrote in rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata:

> Well folks after reporting this clown to Google Grps. Abuse, I notice
> that they are no longer showing any new ones on Google grps, somehow
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> be seen there (His newer ones). So if any of you know how to get him
> blocked on Usenet, I am sure that your efforts would be appreciated.

Google rarely reacts to this stuff. Its going on in MANY MANY groups
currently. If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post
to more than one group.

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Lanny Chambers - 17 Jan 2008 22:14 GMT
> If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post
> to more than one group.

Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header
contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam.

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Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C

Chris D'Agnolo - 18 Jan 2008 03:48 GMT
Can ya'all tell me what the hell happened to the posts here starting around
1-14-08 or 1-15-08? Is it a virus or something like that or something to do
with this cross posting issue you mention here?

Chris
99BBB

>> If your software can filter on cross posts they typically post
>> to more than one group.
>
> Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header
> contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam.
SINNER - 18 Jan 2008 18:19 GMT
* Chris D'Agnolo wrote in rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata:

> Can ya'all tell me what the hell happened to the posts here starting
> around 1-14-08 or 1-15-08? Is it a virus or something like that or
> something to do with this cross posting issue you mention here?

Its called sporge, welcome to Usenet. Its a kid playing with a new toy
being circulated to bring the downfall of Usenet. Just ignore it.

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Jim - 19 Jan 2008 04:37 GMT
>Yep, just add a filter to kill articles where the "Newsgroups" header
>contains a comma (,). Any crossposted article is inevitably spam.

Perhaps here that applies.  In technical groups it is common to
crosspost to more than one group if all cover the topic.  Of course, it
is also appropriate to have been reading all those groups to be sure
that the post is not off topic in them.

When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6
months before posting.

Jim
Lanny Chambers - 19 Jan 2008 05:14 GMT
> When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6
> months before posting.

Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all.

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Chris D'Agnolo - 19 Jan 2008 18:16 GMT
Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean?

Chris
99BBB

>> When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6
>> months before posting.
>
> Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all.
Lanny Chambers - 19 Jan 2008 23:45 GMT
> Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean?
>
> >> When I started reading Usenet, the advice was to read a group for 6
> >> months before posting.
> >
> > Right. Nowadays, you're lucky if many of the posters can read at all.

If they were able to read, surely they would also be able to write well
enough to be understood. Q.E.D. (Not to mention LOL, FTW, and WTF.)

Mr. Cheer, eh? I like that.

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St. Louis, MO
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Chris D'Agnolo - 20 Jan 2008 15:19 GMT
Well, I'll just show you how ignorant I am (I'm not admitting stupidity, but
ignorance), I've been reading this group for .......... well, a long time
and I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D.". It took me forever
to figure out what LOL means, WTF comes to me fairly naturally (sorry to
say) and I don't remember seeing FTW used, nor do I know what it would infer
if I do see it used. Enlighten me if you will. I'm always interested in
wiping out ignorance where ever possible (stupidity on the other hand well,
that would be impossible!).

TIA Mr. Cheer (I thought you might LOL on that one ;-)
Chris
99BBB

>> Hey Mr. Cheer, what's that supposed to mean?
>>
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>
> Mr. Cheer, eh? I like that.
Lanny Chambers - 20 Jan 2008 15:44 GMT
> I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D."

It's the abbreviation for "quod erat demonstrandum," Latin for "thus it
is proven" and the traditional last line of a geometry proof or logic
syllogism. A scholarly version of "neener-neener" if you will.

As for the others, I was making fun of the semi-literate whose posts
consist entirely of currently-faddish acronyms. Presumably, they are
evidence of belonging to an "in" group. Since you and I will never be
part of such a group, we're not supposed to understand.  :-)

Wikipedia is a good reference for acronyms and other arcana of transient
modern culture.

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pws - 20 Jan 2008 22:08 GMT
> As for the others, I was making fun of the semi-literate whose posts
> consist entirely of currently-faddish acronyms. Presumably, they are
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> Wikipedia is a good reference for acronyms and other arcana of transient
> modern culture.

Hey Mr. Cheer,

I'm not sure about it being an "in" group, as much as it being the first
 generation that is growing up where communicating online is something
that has always been around during their lifetime.

I have watched my daughter chat online and they can exchange a huge
amount of data with very few keystrokes.
It seems semi-literate to an old fogie like me, even though I know many
acronyms, but they are having no trouble understanding each other.

Many of the acronyms have been used regularly since I have been online.
How long must they be used before they are no longer transient or
currently-faddish? :-)

Pat
Lanny Chambers - 20 Jan 2008 23:39 GMT
> I have watched my daughter chat online and they can exchange a huge
> amount of data with very few keystrokes.

I am reminded of frogs around a pond, croaking just to let the other
frogs know they're still alive. Not sophisticated and erudite discourse,
such as we practice here. <ahem>

Old people chatting are just as bad. They use real English, but all they
talk about is their ailments, or going to funerals.

> Many of the acronyms have been used regularly since I have been online.
> How long must they be used before they are no longer transient or
> currently-faddish? :-)

After our passing, one can only hope. Acronyms have their place, and the
useful ones have staying power (FWIW, BTW, SWMBO). But don't you think
the others lose some meaning in statements such as "Yuo su'X ftw. Im
g0nna brake u'r neck lol."

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'94C

pws - 21 Jan 2008 01:31 GMT
> I am reminded of frogs around a pond, croaking just to let the other
> frogs know they're still alive. Not sophisticated and erudite discourse,
> such as we practice here. <ahem>

I am not suggesting that anything too sophisticated was being
transmitted, but this is an entirely new phenomenon, much like the phone
was.
There are a few nerds, (nerds in a good way), on here that have been
using online communication for quite some time, but it is a fairly
recent thing for most people.

> Old people chatting are just as bad. They use real English, but all they
> talk about is their ailments, or going to funerals.

I still get to hear the occasional WW2 story. Good stuff there... ;-)

> After our passing, one can only hope. Acronyms have their place, and the
> useful ones have staying power (FWIW, BTW, SWMBO). But don't you think
> the others lose some meaning in statements such as "Yuo su'X ftw. Im
> g0nna brake u'r neck lol."

Gotcha, I saw lots of "OMG" and "BF"....
OMG and a few others  actually being used in place of speech by a lot of
people, which is a little scary.

Pat
Lanny Chambers - 21 Jan 2008 03:53 GMT
> OMG and a few others  actually being used in place of speech by a lot of
> people, which is a little scary.

And to think, years ago we were concerned that younger generations would
take our jobs from us. Fat chance, assuming one's job requires writing
precise, unambiguous English. Note that youngsters never complain that
old farts' writing is hard to understand.

Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has
neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while
ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm
hopeless.

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'94C

pws - 22 Jan 2008 18:38 GMT
> And to think, years ago we were concerned that younger generations would
> take our jobs from us. Fat chance, assuming one's job requires writing
> precise, unambiguous English. Note that youngsters never complain that
> old farts' writing is hard to understand.

Oh ye of little faith. ;-)

I may be biased, but my offspring is an upgrade from the two that
produced her. (insert your own joke here).
She seems to be more naive than I was at her age, but if she is an
indication of what is coming up, then we will be in good hands.

> Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has
> neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while
> ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm
> hopeless.

Hey, don't feel so bad. I have a cell, but it is my only phone. No iPod,
no cable TV, and I still listen to music on a Panasonic boom box that I
bought in 1989.
Also, no DVD player except for the one in my computer, which is an aging
collection of free spare parts that should have never come to life, but
somehow did.....

Pat - also hopeless
Carbon - 26 Jan 2008 12:01 GMT

> Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has
> neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while
> ago, I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year. I'm
> hopeless.

No cell phone. That is excellent. I actually liked the first phone I had:
no camera, no extra junk, just a little flip-phone with a good battery
and caller-ID on the outside. After I lost that one I could not find a
replacement with as few features, at least not for free from the cell
phone provider. Now I have some stupid Nokia with every imaginable bell
and whistle. I hate the damned thing.

What records?
Jazz_Azz - 26 Jan 2008 16:59 GMT
> > Of course, I'm among the miniscule percentage of the population that has
> > neither a cellphone nor an iPod. No cable TV, either. A little while
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>
> What records?

Got my cell from T-Mobile when I hooked up with their Pre-paid
service, the BEST ONE of all of them. Bought reasonably priced a
Samsung T209, little flip phone that is a basic phone, with caller ID
on the outside, similar to what described. They may still have them.
That was Feb 2007.
Lanny Chambers - 26 Jan 2008 17:09 GMT
>> I was playing some records that will be 50 years old this year.
>
> What records?

IIRC, it was some Arthur Fiedler/Boston Pops on RCA. I have hundreds of
LPs from the golden age of stereo, 1958-63. My turntable and phono
preamp are worth more than my Miata.

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St. Louis, MO
'94C

pws - 27 Jan 2008 12:00 GMT
> My turntable and phono preamp are worth more than my Miata.

A mildly modified 1994 Miata with over 140,000 miles has a blue book
value of approximately $12.75, you can add $30.00 if the gas tank is
full. ;-)

How much is that phono and preamp worth again?

Pat
Leon van Dommelen - 20 Jan 2008 23:37 GMT
Hey Mr. Cheer,

>> I have no idea what you are inferring with "Q.E.D."
>
> It's the abbreviation for "quod erat demonstrandum," Latin for "thus it
> is proven" and the traditional last line of a geometry proof or logic
> syllogism. A scholarly version of "neener-neener" if you will.

Actually, without looking it up, (GF), I though it stood for
"what was to be proven," not "thus it is proven."  Of course, every
listener to the proof recognizes that it has been proven.  It is just
a reminder that it is the starting question, so we are finished.

Leon
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Leon :)  Bess :)  Bozo .)

Chris D'Agnolo - 21 Jan 2008 01:14 GMT
Well it's entertaining just being in the same newsgroup with so much
intelligence ;-) Here I thought we were talking about English and I find out
we're also talking Latin!

Chris
99BBB

> Hey Mr. Cheer,
>
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>
> Leon
 
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