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Car Forum / Mazda / Mazda Miata / April 2008Send a Message to "Big Oil"
Join the Boycott of Exxon Oil Products I am inviting you to join with other citizens in sending a message to "BIG OIL" that we are fed up with record oil product prices while oil corporations quietly are enjoying record profits. We have chosen Exxon Oil as the target of the boycott because they are reaping the highest profits, but have yet to settle their court-determined financial obligations to the Alaskan fishing industry from the Exxon Valdez disaster nearly a generation ago now. Profits stories: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=4227309 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/28/AR2005072802085.html Exxon Valdez stories: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-supreme-court-taking-up/story.aspx?guid =%7B6BCE06DD-58E4-4B42-891C-C175C8E3C0F1%7D http://www.lieffcabraser.com/wbh_exxart.htm In our opinion, the arrogance and lack of social responsibility constantly displayed by Exxon are the grounds for singling out the worst bad apple out of a barrel of bad apples. If we can send a message to Exxon Oil to behave responsibly, perhaps other oil companies, and hopefully Congress will take note. What else can we do? Every year Congress has hearings investigating Big Oil and profits/prices, but they go nowhere. Big Oil can fight Congress in their sleep. It isn't even a fight - it is a ridiculous dance being funded by taxpayers such as you and I. Feel free to pass this along to your friends both by email and word-of-mouth. Also, feel free to pass it on to your legislators in Washington. http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ Citizens Against Big Oil > Join the Boycott of Exxon Oil Products Dude, look up "fungible". Here, I'll help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungibility > I am inviting you to join with other citizens in sending a > message to "BIG OIL" that we are fed up with record oil [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the Alaskan fishing industry from the Exxon Valdez disaster > nearly a generation ago now. You're not sending any message except that you don't understand how market-driven economics works. You can't "not buy Exxon oil products" unless you just plain stop buying oil products and products that are produced using oil products. That said, buying and consuming less stuff is an admirable goal, and I wish you luck with it. Let's just stop pretending that bying oil products from one particular gas station instead of a different one is help/hurting anybody except the local people who happen to own and work in the gas stations in question.  SignatureGrant Edwards grante Yow! They collapsed at ... like nuns in the visi.com street ... they had no teen appeal! $3.70/gal in Plattsburgh, NY this weekend SignatureDana Port Kent, NY > $3.70/gal in Plattsburgh, NY this weekend That's cheap!! Here in the UK we're paying around £1.069 per litre. US gallon - 3.7854118 litres Cost per US Gallon = GBP4.0466052142 per gallon GBP1 = $1.97 $ cost for UK petrol = $7.97181227197 $7.98 per gallon. In the UK approx 75% of that cost is tax... SignatureRob - Shropshire So many cats, So few recipes... > Join the Boycott of Exxon Oil Products You wanna send a message to Big Oil? Stop voting for their politicians. miker Who does that leave? >> Join the Boycott of Exxon Oil Products > > You wanna send a message to Big Oil? Stop voting for their politicians. > > miker Ron Paul, maybe. A Texan, no less! :) Here's my Plan to Save America: Start voting every election, every seat, every time... against the incumbent. Doesn't matter who we put in, most of them are the same anyway. Let's get rid of the entrenched guys that know how to use the corrupt system. Let's make it harder for big money and special interests to get a return on the money they spend owning politicians. And let's lower the status of high government office so the greedy and corrupt have less interest. And all SUV's to meet Miata standards for fuel economy by 2010. There, on topic. ;) miker > Who does that leave? > > "miker" <miker4butnospamok@mindspring.com> wrote in message > > You wanna send a message to Big Oil? Stop voting for their politicians. > Ron Paul, maybe. A Texan, no less! :) Ron Paul has way too many good ideas to ever be elected. The majority of the people in this country are now so out of shape both mentally and physically that they deserve what they get; in this case a choice of 3 possibilities, all of which just couldn't suck any more as our leadership choices. > Here's my Plan to Save America: Start voting every election, every seat, > every time... against the incumbent. Doesn't matter who we put in, most of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > let's lower the status of high government office so the greedy and corrupt > have less interest. Sounds good to me! Not sure that it can be done peacefully, not that I would ever suggest anything else, especially since the passing of a certain act that laid almost complete waste to our constitution overnight. > And all SUV's to meet Miata standards for fuel economy by 2010. There, on > topic. ;) > > miker I want it harsher. Suspend the production of all SUV's until they can achieve at least equal fuel economy to the latest electric hybrids. (that was a joke, the last thing I want is even MORE laws in this country, at least until we cut back what we have now in a big way). Oops, back off-topic. OK, I'll settle for Miata standards. ;-) Pat > Here's my Plan to Save America: Start voting every election, every seat, > every time... against the incumbent. Doesn't matter who we put in, most of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And all SUV's to meet Miata standards for fuel economy by 2010. There, on > topic. ;) Naw, we just need the choice "None of the above". <g> And then the parties have to start all over with different candidates. And no governmental work can be done until we get someone electable. A couple of years ago, a friend of ours had the same idea as yours, Miker. We've managed to follow it quite easily the past several years. Iva & Vixen 2004 Classic Red No more winkin' Miata > A couple of years ago, a friend of ours had the same idea as yours, > Miker. We've managed to follow it quite easily the past several > years. That's what I like about it. Easy to grasp, easy to do, requires no law changes. My other brilliant idea is to make the winner of the election President, and the runner-up Vice President; that way we'd have an executive branch split by party. One more check-and-balance. Can you imagine a Hillary/McCain administration? :) OTOH, a Bush/Gore pairing would have had us better off, IMO. This would also encourage multiple parties instead of just two. Oh yeah. An official public political channel, that is the only place candidates are allowed to campaign. miker > My other brilliant idea is to make the winner of the election > President, and the runner-up Vice President; Neither new nor brilliant, it was done exactly that way until the passage of the twelfth amendment in 1804. The twelfth amendment was necessary because the "brilliant" idea was a complete and utter failure. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org > Neither new nor brilliant, it was done exactly that way until the > passage of the twelfth amendment in 1804. Yep, Adams was the first VP after losing to Washington, then Jefferson was the 2nd VP after losing to Adams, then became the 3rd President after beating Adams the 2nd time around. History is fun. Amazing how little the average American knows, especially since we only have 232 years of it. Of course, supposedly 1/5 of the adults in the U.S. can not find their own country on a world map, so it is not that shocking. > The twelfth amendment was necessary because the "brilliant" idea was a > complete and utter failure. Good thing they passed it, otherwise we might not have this properly oiled and working electoral system in place. Our current system put the losing man in office two terms ago. That is what I would call "a complete and utter failure". Pat > Yep, Adams was the first VP after losing to Washington, then Jefferson > was the 2nd VP after losing to Adams, then became the 3rd President > after beating Adams the 2nd time around. > > History is fun. Amazing how little the average American knows, So wouldn't Adams have been 7th VP? After all, Washington himself congratulated Hanson on being the first President. > > The twelfth amendment was necessary because the "brilliant" idea was a > > complete and utter failure. > > Good thing they passed it, otherwise we might not have this properly > oiled and working electoral system in place. Both good comments. I honestly didn't know it was done that way originally. But perhaps the two-parties-and-two-parties-only system wasn't as entrenched then? Back to the drawing board. miker > So wouldn't Adams have been 7th VP? After all, Washington himself > congratulated Hanson on being the first President. Now you are getting really technical. :-) George Washington was officially our first President, John Adams was our first vice-president and second President. Jefferson was the 2nd VP and third President. > Both good comments. I honestly didn't know it was done that way originally. I had basically forgotten about it until watching the HBO series, "John Adams". Sadly, this show does more to teach history of the start of the nation than any history class that I took. At my school, you either went and learned for yourself or you did not learn in almost any class. I had completely forgotten that John Adams successfully defended the British soldiers from the Boston Massacre in a Massachusetts court. Anyway, it shows George Washington beating Adams by a lot of electoral votes, but Adams has more than everyone besides Washington combined. When he runs against Jefferson, he beats him by 3 votes and gets hammered the second time around. > But perhaps the two-parties-and-two-parties-only system wasn't as entrenched > then? Back to the drawing board. > > miker Again, the show goes into the start of the two-party system quite a bit, it started almost immediately, and HBO does not skimp on historians for reference. It also shows how we would almost certainly never have achieved independence without both French military aid and Dutch money loans, both of which happened but were not mentioned by any of my highly overpaid history teachers. If it didn't happen in Texas, they did not care to discuss it. I probably know every last detail about the battle at the Alamo. We spent whole semesters on that one. ;-) Pat > If it didn't happen in Texas, they did not care to discuss it. I probably > know every last detail about the battle at the Alamo. You should have grown up in Virginia. Four hundred years of history unhampered by progress. -- Ken Lyons '97 Brilliant Black/'90 Classic Red Inside the Beltway > If it didn't happen in Texas, they did not care to discuss it. I > probably know every last detail about the battle at the Alamo. We > spent whole semesters on that one. ;-) It wasn't that complicated, six drunken Mexican reservists whupped the Texans and the US was forced to take Texas as reparations. <GD&R> BTW, I know what you mean, my ex went through school in California and she didn't know much about US history but could tell you what John C. Fremont had for breakfast every day of his life.... I learned some state history in high school but not to the exclusion of world and US history, I can't believe how things have changed now... SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org > It wasn't that complicated, six drunken Mexican reservists whupped the > Texans and the US was forced to take Texas as reparations. <GD&R> Well, Mexico decided that they want it back, and not a shot needs to be fired this time. I believe that they are taking your state as well this time around. <GD&R> > BTW, I know what you mean, my ex went through school in California and > she didn't know much about US history but could tell you what John C. > Fremont had for breakfast every day of his life.... Heh. > I learned some state history in high school but not to the exclusion of > world and US history, I can't believe how things have changed now... It is sad, that is why I called my teachers overpaid. I heard them whine about their pay for many years, when most of the teachers were babysitters at best. If you wanted to learn drafting at my high school, you were taught by a man who was drunk on the job. Math, better hope you didn't get the man who was not as good as the top 20% of his 10th grade class in solving math problems. It goes on and on. The incompetence was glaring even to a teenager, and the viewpoint has not changed with age. These teachers sucked in a way that is hard to believe. To top it off, they only had to perform their job badly for 9 months, so sympathy from me about their low pay was hard to come by. Pat > History is fun. Amazing how little the average American knows, > especially since we only have 232 years of it. I know because I've been around for most of it... <sigh> SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org |
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