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Dresiing for soft top?

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OzOne - 27 Apr 2008 05:13 GMT
Hi Guys,
I own a 2005 NC Limited Edition and I'm looking for some type of
dressing to use on the soft top.
Being the fabric style I'm not sure what I can usre without leaving
white marks and/or damaging the membrane.
Contacted Meguires here in Oz and they were unable to recommend
anything "but we're searching the world to find a product we can put
into our range"

Any suggestions appreciated.

OzOne of the three twins

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Tommy - 27 Apr 2008 11:27 GMT
> Hi Guys,
> I own a 2005 NC Limited Edition and I'm looking for some type of
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>
> Any suggestions appreciated.

Do you get Autoglym products over there?
They do a soft top pack which is great for the fabric roof
(NOT good for the vinyl roof)
OzOne - 27 Apr 2008 11:42 GMT
>> Hi Guys,
>> I own a 2005 NC Limited Edition and I'm looking for some type of
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>They do a soft top pack which is great for the fabric roof
>(NOT good for the vinyl roof)

Yeah, we do get Auto Glym....but not the dressing.
Have read some bad reports on the product...and some very good ones
too.
I'm reluctant to get some in based upon the bad ones
http://www.pistonheads.com/reviews/reviews.asp?c=73&id=239

Have you used it?

OzOne of the three twins

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Tommy - 29 Apr 2008 12:07 GMT
> Yeah, we do get Auto Glym....but not the dressing.
> Have read some bad reports on the product...and some very good ones
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>
> Have you used it?

I did BUT I've a "plastic" roof so the cleaner was fine, but the dressing
was not succesful - we all have to learn the hard way sometimes :(

I actually use somethingelse now :)
OzOne - 01 May 2008 01:29 GMT
>> Yeah, we do get Auto Glym....but not the dressing.
>> Have read some bad reports on the product...and some very good ones
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>
>I actually use somethingelse now :)

Thanks Tommy.
I haven't been able to find anyone here that has used anything on a
fabric top...yet.
They appeared in 2005 on the NC and are apparently holding up well
without attention other than regular washing.

OzOne of the three twins

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Christopher Muto - 01 May 2008 13:41 GMT
you didn't see the novel i wrote for you for days ago?

>>> Yeah, we do get Auto Glym....but not the dressing.
>>> Have read some bad reports on the product...and some very good ones
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>
> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
OzOne - 02 May 2008 09:40 GMT
>you didn't see the novel i wrote for you for days ago?
>
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>> They appeared in 2005 on the NC and are apparently holding up well
>> without attention other than regular washing.

No Christopher, It didn't appear in my newsreader.
If you could repost I'd appreciate it.

OzOne of the three twins

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Christopher Muto - 03 May 2008 14:25 GMT
note: there are different products to use to restore/protect vinyl tops and
fabric tops.  the below applies to either but be sure you get the correct
product for your type of top.
my understanding is that virtually all fabric auto tops are made from a
fabric from a company called haartz.  sunbrella is another company that
makes fabric for tops but they are generally found on marine products (boat
covers, bimini tops, etc) and on window awnings.  haartz had recommended a
product called 303 high tech fabric guard for over 25 years, but in recent
years has recommended a different product called raggtopp.  i used the
raggtopp product on my aftermarket haartz fabric (not vinyl) top (95 na) a
couple of years ago and after a bad start the results were spectacular.  the
first time i used raggtop the top had a white streaking to it that looked
awful.  this came off with another cleaning with the top cleaner.  i was
told to hold the spray further away from the top (two feet or so) and let
the spray rain down on the top.   results were great, the color which was
not in bad shape was restored to like new and the top beaded rain again like
when new.  next time i tried raggtopp, about a year and half later,  it was
a disaster.  the product is in a aerosol can and they did something to the
nozzle that had resulted in a mist so fine that it is now impossible to
apply the product outdoors as the slightest wind carries the spray off
before it ever touches the top.  even after moving indoors and applying a
couple of coats they did not bead like the first year.   i exchange some
emails with the company and all i will say is that they were less than
professional in their responses (like their web site).  i then discovered
303 high tech fabric guard and gave it a try.  it comes in a manual pump
spray bottle and is easy to control.  the product works great.  in my
experience, raggtopp may have produced better results in terms of beading
the first time i used it (before they changed it),  but it was effectively
useless when i last tried it.  303 is much less fussy and very easy to
apply, even if outdoors.  make sure your top is bone dry before you apply
either of these products, and that it is allowed to bask in a hot sun for
several hours before the top comes into contact with any water for the first
time (allow the product to dry completely, not just to the touch).
these are the manufacturers sites...
www.303products.com
http://www.wolfsteins.com

>>you didn't see the novel i wrote for you for days ago?
>>
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>
> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
OzOne - 04 May 2008 01:08 GMT
>note: there are different products to use to restore/protect vinyl tops and
>fabric tops.  the below applies to either but be sure you get the correct
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>www.303products.com
>http://www.wolfsteins.com

Thanks Chris,
Sounds like a good product...now to see if I can get it here in Oz or
if I need to import.

OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
Christopher Muto - 27 Apr 2008 13:16 GMT
note: there are different products to use to restore/protect vinyl tops and
fabric tops.  the below applies to either but be sure you get the correct
product for your type of top.
my understanding is that virtually all fabric auto tops are made from a
fabric from a company called haartz.  sunbrella is another company that
makes fabric for tops but they are generally found on marine products (boat
covers, bimini tops, etc) and on window awnings.  haartz had recommended a
product called 303 high tech fabric guard for over 25 years, but in recent
years has recommended a different product called raggtopp.  i used the
raggtopp product on my aftermarket haartz fabric top (95 na) a couple of
years ago and the results were spectacular, the color which was not in bad
shape was restored to like new and the beading came back.  the next time i
tried raggtopp, about a year and half later,  it was a disaster.  the
product is in a aerosol can and they did something to the nozzle that had
resulted in a mist so fine that it is now impossible to apply the product
outdoors as the slightest wind carries the spray off before it ever touches
the top.  even after moving indoors and applying a couple of coats they did
not bead like the first year.   i exchange some emails with the company and
all i will say is that they were less than professional in their responses
(like their web site).  i then discovered 303 high tech fabric guard and
gave it a try.  it comes in a manual pump spray bottle and is easy to
control.  the product works great.  in my experience, raggtopp may have
produced better results in terms of beading the first time i used it (before
they changed it),  but it was effectively useless when i last tried it.  303
is much less fussy and very easy to apply, even if outdoors.  make sure your
top is bone dry before you apply either of these products, and that it is
allowed to bask in a hot sun for several hours before the top comes into
contact with any rain for the first time (allow the product to dry
completely, not just to the touch).
here are the manufacturers sites...
www.303products.com
http://www.wolfsteins.com

> Hi Guys,
> I own a 2005 NC Limited Edition and I'm looking for some type of
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

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