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Advice for buying long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan
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AL - 11 May 2004 09:57 GMT Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan.
My choices are 2005 Toyota Corolla CE, 2004 Honda Civic LX, 2004 Nissan Sentra 1.8s, and 2004 Mazda 3 Sedan.
What recommendation should I consider? Please list negatives/positves/inherent issues with certain models?
What THanks in advance for your advice.
FearTurtle 2 - 11 May 2004 18:40 GMT Most of the experts would go with the Toyota Corolla. I have a "99 CE and have been very pleased. Other than oil changes, nothing has happened. But I would go now with the Mazda 3. More expensive but a much nicer looking car.
Kevin
> Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What THanks in advance for your advice. AL - 12 May 2004 06:24 GMT But the track record with the mazda 3 is still unproven because it is first generation?
> Most of the experts would go with the Toyota Corolla. I have a "99 CE and > have been very pleased. Other than oil changes, nothing has happened. But I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > What THanks in advance for your advice. Bryan - 13 May 2004 17:17 GMT Shibby Mazda 3 or Mazda 6
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> Most of the experts would go with the Toyota Corolla. I have a "99 CE and > have been very pleased. Other than oil changes, nothing has happened. But I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > What THanks in advance for your advice. First of One - 14 May 2004 01:04 GMT Civic LX in gray. It is the most popular vehicle of the group, with almost infinite amount of used- or aftermarket parts and support, ensuring cheap maintenance for years and years.
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> Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What THanks in advance for your advice. Richard Smith - 23 May 2004 13:00 GMT > Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What THanks in advance for your advice. I'm still driving an originally purchased (Nov, 1989) 1990 Protege SE, SOHC w/211,000 miles, original engine, tranny AND CLUTCH (yes, original clutch, it's all in the left foot folks)...so far....new alternator (170Kmiles), water pump (135Kmi) and complete AC (192Kmi). From what i've heard from folks with the Mazda 6 and 3/protege's...the AC is now the weakest link- most of these folks don't get more than 6 years or 100,000 miles out them. No probs w/the rest of the car but I had to replace all the parts....$1800.
Richard
Carol - 30 May 2004 20:28 GMT I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual). Great car to drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs. Would you guys recommend the extended warranty (7 yrs/100Kmilles) over the original (4 yrs/50Kmiles)?
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> > Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Richard -- Carol Plouffe 2633 Avalon Drive Bettendorf, IA 52722 home: (563) 344-9572 cell: (309) 738-0177 frog@mchsi.com
Bryan - 31 May 2004 05:41 GMT Good choice buying a Mazda, thumbs up Get the 7yr/100,00 mile one. And change from dinosaur oil to full synthetic immediatly, it will extend the wear on internal parts of the engine, and extend the life of the car. Go with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic, and use the weight oil you would normaly use when selecting the synthetic oil at your nearest store.
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> I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual). Great car to > drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs. Would you guys [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > cell: (309) 738-0177 > frog@mchsi.com KWS - 14 Jun 2004 06:28 GMT My daughter bought a Prot?g? last summer and I suggested she go for the extended warranty. It was not a cut and dry choice. If it were me, I would not. My concern was that she is not knowledgeable in matters automotive and might be in a situation where this would be of benefit.
I would go for the extended warranty on domestic cars. On both a 1986 Plymouth Voyager and 1996 Chrysler Town and Country, they paid off big time. The Hondas and Mazda that we have owned from new never needed them.
Ken
> I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual). Great car to > drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs. Would you guys [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > cell: (309) 738-0177 > frog@mchsi.com Jeffrey Kaplan - 15 Jun 2004 02:25 GMT While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, KWS said:
; I would go for the extended warranty on domestic cars. On both a 1986 ; Plymouth Voyager and 1996 Chrysler Town and Country, they paid off big time. ; The Hondas and Mazda that we have owned from new never needed them.
Any of them first-years? I thought that since this is a Mazda and not a GM or domestic Ford, that I wouldn't have to worry about a first-year model...
'02 Mazda6, from early in the first year production run. Advertised accessories were not yet available, and one of them didn't fit (lower fascia mounted fog lights do NOT fit the Sport Package bumpers). The radio gets crappy reception ('03s have a different antenna). A year after purchase, my 'check engine' light comes on for a nothing problem, required a reprogram to fix. Was reprogrammed. The 'check engine' light has come on twice more within the past month for the same thing. My handbrake lever needs to be replaced due to the release sticking. Good thing it's not a manual transmission!. There have been almost a half dozen recalls for various and sundry potential problems. And it has what I now consider a chronic Mazda problem: Uncooperative weather stripping. I'm about to have it replaced for the second time in a year, and the weather stripping on my '00 Protege was also replaced twice in two years.
If I had to do it over again, knowing what I know now, would I still buy this car? Yes and no. I'd still probably buy a Mazda6 equipped the same, but not an '03. I will try to remember to NEVER EVER buy a first-year car again, even if it means waiting another year or getting something else.
(Note: "doing it again" in my case would mean not getting the 6 because of why I traded in my Protege: It was medically imperative that I get rid of the foot operated clutch asap. "doing it again" would land me in either another Protege or P5, with the 4speed SportAT or a Jetta. Those were my runner-up choices.)
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KWS - 16 Jun 2004 06:17 GMT The Chrysler was the first year for that redesign. From what I read in various newsgroups, the problems I had were not unique to that year.
The '86 Voyager was, I believe, the second year.
By comparison, my 1990 Miata had virtually no problems for the first 100K miles or so. That was a "first year" model. And no, I did not purchase an extended warranty on it.
Best,
Ken
> While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, KWS said: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > would land me in either another Protege or P5, with the 4speed SportAT > or a Jetta. Those were my runner-up choices.)
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