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Advice for buying long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan

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AL - 11 May 2004 09:57 GMT
Trying to decide on long term usage, reliable, and economical sedan.

My choices are 2005 Toyota Corolla CE, 2004 Honda Civic LX, 2004 Nissan
Sentra 1.8s, and 2004 Mazda 3 Sedan.

What recommendation should I consider? Please list
negatives/positves/inherent issues with certain models?

What THanks in advance for your advice.
FearTurtle 2 - 11 May 2004 18:40 GMT
Most of the experts would go with the Toyota Corolla. I have a "99 CE and
have been very pleased. Other than oil changes, nothing has happened. But I
would go now with the Mazda 3. More expensive but a much nicer looking car.

Kevin
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AL - 12 May 2004 06:24 GMT
But the track record with the mazda 3 is still unproven because it is first
generation?

> Most of the experts would go with the Toyota Corolla. I have a "99 CE and
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Bryan - 13 May 2004 17:17 GMT
Shibby Mazda 3 or Mazda 6

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First of One - 14 May 2004 01:04 GMT
Civic LX in gray. It is the most popular vehicle of the group, with almost
infinite amount of used- or aftermarket parts and support, ensuring cheap
maintenance for years and years.

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Richard Smith - 23 May 2004 13:00 GMT
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> What THanks in advance for your advice.

I'm still driving an originally purchased (Nov, 1989) 1990 Protege SE, SOHC
w/211,000 miles, original engine, tranny AND CLUTCH (yes, original clutch,
it's all in the left foot folks)...so far....new alternator (170Kmiles),
water pump (135Kmi) and complete AC (192Kmi).  From what i've heard from
folks with the Mazda 6 and 3/protege's...the AC is now the weakest link-
most of these folks don't get more than 6 years or 100,000 miles out them.
No probs w/the rest of the car but I had to replace all the parts....$1800.

Richard
Carol - 30 May 2004 20:28 GMT
I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual).  Great car to
drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs.  Would you guys
recommend the extended warranty (7 yrs/100Kmilles) over the original (4
yrs/50Kmiles)?

Carol
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Bryan - 31 May 2004 05:41 GMT
Good choice buying a Mazda, thumbs up
Get the 7yr/100,00 mile one.
And change from dinosaur oil to full synthetic immediatly, it will extend
the wear on internal parts of the engine, and extend the life of the car.
Go with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic, and use the weight oil you would normaly use
when selecting the synthetic oil at your nearest store.

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> I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual).  Great car to
> drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs.  Would you guys
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KWS - 14 Jun 2004 06:28 GMT
My daughter bought a Prot?g? last summer and I suggested she go for the
extended warranty. It was not a cut and dry choice. If it were me, I would
not. My concern was that she is not knowledgeable in matters automotive and
might be in a situation where this would be of benefit.

I would go for the extended warranty on domestic cars. On both a 1986
Plymouth Voyager and 1996 Chrysler Town and Country, they paid off big time.
The Hondas and Mazda that we have owned from new never needed them.

Ken

> I just bought a Mazda 3s yesterday (4door sedan, manual).  Great car to
> drive...I intent to keep this car for more than 5 yrs.  Would you guys
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> cell: (309) 738-0177
> frog@mchsi.com
Jeffrey Kaplan - 15 Jun 2004 02:25 GMT
While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, KWS said:

; I would go for the extended warranty on domestic cars. On both a 1986
; Plymouth Voyager and 1996 Chrysler Town and Country, they paid off big time.
; The Hondas and Mazda that we have owned from new never needed them.

Any of them first-years?  I thought that since this is a Mazda and not
a GM or domestic Ford, that I wouldn't have to worry about a first-year
model...

'02 Mazda6, from early in the first year production run.  Advertised
accessories were not yet available, and one of them didn't fit (lower
fascia mounted fog lights do NOT fit the Sport Package bumpers).  The
radio gets crappy reception ('03s have a different antenna).  A year
after purchase, my 'check engine' light comes on for a nothing problem,
required a reprogram to fix.  Was reprogrammed.  The 'check engine'
light has come on twice more within the past month for the same thing.
My handbrake lever needs to be replaced due to the release sticking.
Good thing it's not a manual transmission!.  There have been almost a
half dozen recalls for various and sundry potential problems.  And it
has what I now consider a chronic Mazda problem:  Uncooperative weather
stripping.  I'm about to have it replaced for the second time in a
year, and the weather stripping on my '00 Protege was also replaced
twice in two years.

If I had to do it over again, knowing what I know now, would I still
buy this car?  Yes and no.  I'd still probably buy a Mazda6 equipped
the same, but not an '03.  I will try to remember to NEVER EVER buy a
first-year car again, even if it means waiting another year or getting
something else.

(Note:  "doing it again" in my case would mean not getting the 6
because of why I traded in my Protege:  It was medically imperative
that I get rid of the foot operated clutch asap.  "doing it again"
would land me in either another Protege or P5, with the 4speed SportAT
or a Jetta.  Those were my runner-up choices.)

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KWS - 16 Jun 2004 06:17 GMT
The Chrysler was the first year for that redesign. From what I read in
various newsgroups, the problems I had were not unique to that year.

The '86 Voyager was, I believe, the second year.

By comparison, my 1990 Miata had virtually no problems for the first 100K
miles or so. That was a "first year" model. And no, I did not purchase an
extended warranty on it.

Best,

Ken

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> would land me in either another Protege or P5, with the 4speed SportAT
> or a Jetta.  Those were my runner-up choices.)

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