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Engine shuts off after a few seconds - Mazda 626 '91

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Dustin Travis - 13 Apr 2004 04:21 GMT
Hello,

My buddy's wife has a Mazda 626 (I think it's a 91 or 92) that unfortunately
has a very strange problem. They were driving it home the other night and
the engine just cut off. When they try to start it now, it will stay on for
2 or so seconds, and then cut off. Sometimes he can give it some throttle
and it will stay on for longer. It doesn't *try* to stay on, it just cuts
off immediately. He's replaced a few things on it, including distributor
cap, some vacuums, but I don't have a list of what all he's done
unfortunately. A local shop didn't even know what to do with it after
diagnostics. He can get code signals from the ECM (says it's regarding
throttle - but he says it might be because he pulled a sensor earlier and it
hasn't reset), so we know the computer works somewhat, but I'm not sure if
the ECMs can have 90% functionalitiy working and 10% broken to them.. not
sure how they work. Anyway, he's a mechanic for Ryder, so he knows a fair
bit, but the Mazda line of cars is a bit foreign to him (he's a
Jeep/domestic kind of guy). Any ideas on what might be cutting off the
engine would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Dustin Travis
FearTurtle 2 - 14 Apr 2004 21:19 GMT
Is the local shop, a Mazda authorized service center? If not, I would get
the car in so the "experts" can diagnose.

Good luck.

Kevin
> Hello,
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> Dustin Travis
Natalie and Stuart Reason - 17 Apr 2004 11:03 GMT
I had a Hyundai Lantra Wagon that used to do that, we solved the problem by trading it in for a newer car to the local Hyundai dealer.  Thier problem now!
 Hello,

 My buddy's wife has a Mazda 626 (I think it's a 91 or 92) that unfortunately
 has a very strange problem. They were driving it home the other night and
 the engine just cut off. When they try to start it now, it will stay on for
 2 or so seconds, and then cut off. Sometimes he can give it some throttle
 and it will stay on for longer. It doesn't *try* to stay on, it just cuts
 off immediately. He's replaced a few things on it, including distributor
 cap, some vacuums, but I don't have a list of what all he's done
 unfortunately. A local shop didn't even know what to do with it after
 diagnostics. He can get code signals from the ECM (says it's regarding
 throttle - but he says it might be because he pulled a sensor earlier and it
 hasn't reset), so we know the computer works somewhat, but I'm not sure if
 the ECMs can have 90% functionalitiy working and 10% broken to them.. not
 sure how they work. Anyway, he's a mechanic for Ryder, so he knows a fair
 bit, but the Mazda line of cars is a bit foreign to him (he's a
 Jeep/domestic kind of guy). Any ideas on what might be cutting off the
 engine would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

 Dustin Travis
Bryan - 19 Apr 2004 20:41 GMT
He has a bad Throttle postion sensor or bad vaf, check to make sure
everything is pluggedd in, check all vacuum hoses and intake piping for
leaks,etc...
I am assuming it has good spark and fuel correct?

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Bryan W
http://fordprobeshop.com
I had a Hyundai Lantra Wagon that used to do that, we solved the problem by
trading it in for a newer car to the local Hyundai dealer.  Thier problem
now!
Hello,

My buddy's wife has a Mazda 626 (I think it's a 91 or 92) that unfortunately
has a very strange problem. They were driving it home the other night and
the engine just cut off. When they try to start it now, it will stay on for
2 or so seconds, and then cut off. Sometimes he can give it some throttle
and it will stay on for longer. It doesn't *try* to stay on, it just cuts
off immediately. He's replaced a few things on it, including distributor
cap, some vacuums, but I don't have a list of what all he's done
unfortunately. A local shop didn't even know what to do with it after
diagnostics. He can get code signals from the ECM (says it's regarding
throttle - but he says it might be because he pulled a sensor earlier and it
hasn't reset), so we know the computer works somewhat, but I'm not sure if
the ECMs can have 90% functionalitiy working and 10% broken to them.. not
sure how they work. Anyway, he's a mechanic for Ryder, so he knows a fair
bit, but the Mazda line of cars is a bit foreign to him (he's a
Jeep/domestic kind of guy). Any ideas on what might be cutting off the
engine would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Dustin Travis
Dustin - 20 Apr 2004 14:23 GMT
Thank you. I will let him know of what you said. I believe he's replaced the
MAF sensor, and even got another vaf with sensor for replacement, but that
didn't work either. I know he's checked the hoses.. I believe he found one
that was either off or cracked (can't remember) but that didn't resolve the
problem. *Sigh*

> He has a bad Throttle postion sensor or bad vaf, check to make sure
> everything is pluggedd in, check all vacuum hoses and intake piping for
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> Dustin Travis
Bryan - 20 Apr 2004 14:44 GMT
Some info: Actually they don't have MAFs, those didn't come around on 626's
until 1993, it only has a VAF, vain airflow meter.
Same engine is in Mazda Mx6's and Ford probe's of the same year.

--
Bryan W
http://fordprobeshop.com
> Thank you. I will let him know of what you said. I believe he's replaced the
> MAF sensor, and even got another vaf with sensor for replacement, but that
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> > Dustin Travis
Dustin - 20 Apr 2004 15:02 GMT
Well that's good to know. :-)  Thank you.

> Some info: Actually they don't have MAFs, those didn't come around on 626's
> until 1993, it only has a VAF, vain airflow meter.
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> > > Dustin Travis
First of One - 20 Apr 2004 23:19 GMT
Could also be a failing fuel pump.

> Hello,
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> and it will stay on for longer. It doesn't *try* to stay on, it just cuts
> off immediately.

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