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Bryan Lee - 16 Dec 2004 00:32 GMT
The new autoweek has the Mazdaspeed 6.  They say it 400 lbs more then the
stock Mazda 6 and the factory say 0-60mph in 6.6 sec.  I hope thats wrong,
because that's prety slow for 274 hp.
Jeffrey Kaplan - 16 Dec 2004 08:48 GMT
Begin  Bryan Lee quote:

; The new autoweek has the Mazdaspeed 6.  They say it 400 lbs more then the
; stock Mazda 6 and the factory say 0-60mph in 6.6 sec.  I hope thats wrong,
; because that's prety slow for 274 hp.

Well, if it's heavier, then it needs some extra horsepower just to
break even on acceleration.  Plus, where is that peak horsepower made?
Is it down low, below 3K RPM, or up high, above 4K like my '03 6s
SportAT?  Plus, where does the torque curve start to kick in?  Down
low, you need torque to get going, not hp.

My 6s likes to cruise below 2K in the city, but has anemic torque below
2500.

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Bryan Lee - 16 Dec 2004 14:30 GMT
it has 280 lbs-ft of torque and autoweek says the torque band it pretty flat
from 2000rpms to 6000 rpms.  Thats alot of torque for a 2.3l four.  Also it
has a 9.5 to 1 compression so it help the low end torque.
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> My 6s likes to cruise below 2K in the city, but has anemic torque below
> 2500.
Jeffrey Kaplan - 16 Dec 2004 21:10 GMT
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; it has 280 lbs-ft of torque and autoweek says the torque band it pretty flat
; from 2000rpms to 6000 rpms.  Thats alot of torque for a 2.3l four.  Also it
; has a 9.5 to 1 compression so it help the low end torque.

Ok, then where does the HP curve really start to kick in?  Mine is
somewhat high.  Makes for good passing speeds, but bad for quick
starts.

I actually used to like this setup, because it made the car more
civilized in the city, but still responsive on the open road.  Then I
moved out to the boonies, and the highway onramps here are too short.

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Enterprise - 19 Dec 2004 15:24 GMT
Remember Auto Week looked at the car with all the Bells & Whistles. For
about 33k fully loaded  it is best deal you can get AWD, 6 speed but not too
happy about being 4 bang w/ Turbo and no hatchback (seats do not fold down),
keep in mind the engine will be hotter in temp so the engine will be heavier
and stiffing for the torque and rear handling.

> The new autoweek has the Mazdaspeed 6.  They say it 400 lbs more then the
> stock Mazda 6 and the factory say 0-60mph in 6.6 sec.  I hope thats wrong,
> because that's prety slow for 274 hp.
Bryan Lee - 19 Dec 2004 15:58 GMT
If I would have know this was coming out back in feb. I would have waited.
I went and got a Subaru WRX wagon (hatchback with fold down seats) with
short throw shifter, subwoofer and upgraded alarm.  I think thats the best
deal for an AWD car I got all that for $22,500 and it does 0-60 in the mid 5
sec.  I'm not sure what market they are going for.  If they are going after
the other import AWD cars their price is too high (WRX $22,500, the Subaru
legacy GT {250 hp 0-60 in 5.7 sec} for $28,000, and that time I could have
got an EVO{ 274 hp 0-60 5 flat} for $26,000) and not fast enough.  When you
get into the low $30,000 you get into the Acura TL, Volvo V40 T5, and Subaru
STI (0-60 in the mid 4 sec).  I ll just wait to see how they market it.  At
this point it's just all guess until we get hard facts.
> Remember Auto Week looked at the car with all the Bells & Whistles. For
> about 33k fully loaded  it is best deal you can get AWD, 6 speed but not
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>> wrong,
>> because that's prety slow for 274 hp.
Enterprise - 20 Dec 2004 02:52 GMT
I am personally waiting for 2007 before I buy the speed6 giving the auto
manufacture 2 years to work out the bugs / kinks and before they change body
styles. I looked at the Subaru WRX STI ugly, not as many options, don't
offer color red but if you have the need for speed I would go for the Subaru
for styling in a good price range the Mazda, money no object the
InfinityG35x AWD or Volvo.

> If I would have know this was coming out back in feb. I would have waited.
> I went and got a Subaru WRX wagon (hatchback with fold down seats) with
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> >> wrong,
> >> because that's prety slow for 274 hp.
BBB - 19 Apr 2005 12:35 GMT
Slow?  The Porsche Boxter ($54,000) does 0-60 in 6.8 sec.

> The new autoweek has the Mazdaspeed 6.  They say it 400 lbs more then the
> stock Mazda 6 and the factory say 0-60mph in 6.6 sec.  I hope thats wrong,
> because that's prety slow for 274 hp.
 
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