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Tyre Recommendation Mazda 6

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TheScullster - 17 Jul 2006 16:38 GMT
Hi all

As the subject really, does anyone have recommendations for replacement
tyres on Mazda 6?
Currently Bridgestone Turanza - presumably originals.

Any comments on durable tyres with good grip for this motor appreciated.

TIA

Phil
Jeffrey Kaplan - 17 Jul 2006 23:39 GMT
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> As the subject really, does anyone have recommendations for replacement
> tyres on Mazda 6?
> Currently Bridgestone Turanza - presumably originals.

Which size wheels?  Mine came with the Michelin Pilots (215/50 R17 V)
(US tire ratings) as stock, and this is almost certainly their last
season, I've had them since new in Dec '02, swapped out for snow tires
in all but the first year.

I, too, will be looking for replacement tires.  I doubt I'll be getting
Michelins again because no matter how good they are, and they are quite
good, they're also rather expensive.

If money were no object, I would not hesitate to get Michelin, Pirelli,
or Dunlop.  I would stay away from Yokohama at any price (bad
experience with them in a prior car).  Others' I'd consider include
Firestone/Bridgestone, Toyo, and maybe Cooper.

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TheScullster - 18 Jul 2006 09:36 GMT
"Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote
.

> Which size wheels?  Mine came with the Michelin Pilots (215/50 R17 V)
> (US tire ratings) as stock, and this is almost certainly their last
> season, I've had them since new in Dec '02, swapped out for snow tires
> in all but the first year.

Thanks Jeffrey

Current tyre size is 205/55 R16 V rated.
Am prepared to spend the money at least on the front but want a good balance
between durability and grip.
Pirelli have a good name, but I believe they have a reputation for high grip
softer tyres which don't last too well.

Phil
Jeffrey Kaplan - 18 Jul 2006 21:27 GMT
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> Current tyre size is 205/55 R16 V rated.
> Am prepared to spend the money at least on the front but want a good balance
> between durability and grip.
> Pirelli have a good name, but I believe they have a reputation for high grip
> softer tyres which don't last too well.

The basic issue is one of physics:  Generally speaking, in order to
increase grip you need to use a softer compound.  Softer compounds wear
faster.  There are compounds that provide high grip and decent
longevity, but they're the expensive stuff.

Like the Michelin Pilots...  As I said, I've still got the stock Pilots
on mine almost four years in, with almost 47,000 miles on the car.
Three of the four winters had snow tires instead of the stocks, so
that's an estimated 39,500 on the tires +right now+, and they are good
through at least until I put the snow tires on this November.

I've had no problems with these tires, and if I could afford $200 per
tire, I'd get them again as the replacement tires without hesitation.

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TheScullster - 19 Jul 2006 09:21 GMT
> Like the Michelin Pilots...  As I said, I've still got the stock Pilots
> on mine almost four years in, with almost 47,000 miles on the car.

The Bridgestone Turanzas on mine are on the limit after only 25000 miles.
Never known tyres last 40000 plus!
Have ordered Pirelli P6000 at 75GBP each fitted.
I'm no race-boy, but I believe I have used Michelin in the past and had
trouble with grip particularly in the wet.
Maybe that's the trade off for longevity.
That was many moons ago though.

Phil
Jeffrey Kaplan - 20 Jul 2006 00:10 GMT
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> The Bridgestone Turanzas on mine are on the limit after only 25000 miles.
> Never known tyres last 40000 plus!

The +car+ has 47k miles.  The tires have less.  39.5K is only a very
rough estimate based on miles/year and not having them on for three or
four months each year except the first.  I don't actually track how
many miles I have on the tires.

> Have ordered Pirelli P6000 at 75GBP each fitted.

According to Yahoo, that is about 138USD each.

> I'm no race-boy, but I believe I have used Michelin in the past and had
> trouble with grip particularly in the wet.

I'm not a racer either, but I do like to drive like I mean it.  To that
end, I once took an advanced driving course.  They used Michelin Pilots
exclusively on their vehicles.  They had so much grip that the
instructors had trouble at times intentionally inducing skids.

> Maybe that's the trade off for longevity.

Yep, simple physics.

> That was many moons ago though.

Newer rubber compounds do a better job at providing grip while
providing for longevity, but they do tend to be more expensive.

I remember a bunch of years ago that at least one tire maker solved
this for motorcycles by making a bi-compound tire.  The edges were a
softer rubber to provide extra grip when cornering and a harder rubber
in the main tread section for longer life.  Part of the idea was that
this way, the tire would also wear more evenly.  Doesn't work the same
way for cars. :)

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