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1995 Millenia Catalylitic Converter

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Stephen Levine - 17 Nov 2003 17:53 GMT
My shop told me that there are two converters, one located at each exhaust
manifold. This true? He also said that they cost $780 each, ouch? Can some
one shed some light on this and perhaps lead me to a less costly solution?

Stephen
dooker - 18 Nov 2003 02:32 GMT
There are two converters...... did they tell you why you needed both ??
It's not common to replace them ...

My shop told me that there are two converters, one located at each exhaust
manifold. This true? He also said that they cost $780 each, ouch? Can some
one shed some light on this and perhaps lead me to a less costly solution?

Stephen
Stephen Levine - 18 Nov 2003 17:58 GMT
I was told by the shop (in the course of replacing a leaking water pump and
head gaskets that were destroyed because the engine overheated - but not
head milling yet, haven't talked to them today) that they *both* were
starting to self-destruct. The would last a little longer, but I might no
pass emissions the next time. Might not be common on other peoples" cars -
not mine. Any advice other than the cliff?

> There are two converters...... did they tell you why you needed both ??
> It's not common to replace them ...
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> Stephen
SJF - 18 Nov 2003 20:22 GMT
> I was told by the shop (in the course of replacing a leaking water pump and
> head gaskets that were destroyed because the engine overheated - but not
> head milling yet, haven't talked to them today) that they *both* were
> starting to self-destruct. The would last a little longer, but I might no
> pass emissions the next time. Might not be common on other peoples" cars -
> not mine. Any advice other than the cliff?

I would be very leery about accepting such advice from someone selling
big-ticket repair items.  Clearly, you should not replace them before they
have failed a pollution test (made at some other service facility).

SJF

.

SJF
dooker - 19 Nov 2003 22:37 GMT
I agree ... if the converters start to fail the check engine light will come
on and a converter inefficiency code will be stored ... An earlier sign of
failure may show up on an emissions test as mentioned. It does sound like
the garage is either over selling you or being overcautious ....

> I was told by the shop (in the course of replacing a leaking water pump
and
> head gaskets that were destroyed because the engine overheated - but not
> head milling yet, haven't talked to them today) that they *both* were
> starting to self-destruct. The would last a little longer, but I might no
> pass emissions the next time. Might not be common on other peoples" cars -
> not mine. Any advice other than the cliff?

I would be very leery about accepting such advice from someone selling
big-ticket repair items.  Clearly, you should not replace them before they
have failed a pollution test (made at some other service facility).

SJF

.

SJF
First of One - 28 Nov 2003 02:58 GMT
I've heard reports that there may be three or even four. Go to a Mazda
dealer and ask. You will be surprised at how often they DON'T rip you off
there.

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> My shop told me that there are two converters, one located at each exhaust
> manifold. This true? He also said that they cost $780 each, ouch? Can some
> one shed some light on this and perhaps lead me to a less costly solution?
>
> Stephen
 
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