I have a 1982 300TDT (station wagon).
I have been having a hard time getting it to start in even slightly
cool weather since our fuel dealers here in California were forced by
regulation to switch to ultra low sulfur diesel. Everyone says that
has nothing to do with my car not starting, but I have been going
through all the other possiblities with little success. I first
noticed the problem last summer after parking the car overnight in the
High Sierra at about 7,000 feet. In the morning I had to crank the
motor for a long time, like it was 15 F, but it was only about 40 F.
Now that it is winter and the morning temps are in the 20s F I can
sometimes get the car to start if I had a block heater on all night,
but today it would not start at all. The new fuel tends to flood the
engine and then I need a tow to about 50 mph and drop it in low to get
it to start.
I have replaced the filters. (but I had cracked a line and made sure
that there were bursts of fuel when I turned the motor over.) I have
also replaced the glow plugs. I just ordered a new glow plug relay
from Bosch that keeps the glow plugs energized for three minutes after
the engine starts. Maybe that will help.
I use 2 oz of automatic transmission fluid and 3 oz of Power Service
brand diesel additive for lubricity, centane boost and anti gelling per
10 gallons of fuel.
I also bought a new Sears DieHard International battery, but I still
have trouble getting the motor to start with the new fuel. I bought a
tank of low sulfur, the old stuff, on the Navajo reservation last month
and the next morning my TDT started fine even with frost on the windows
and the grass. That afternoon I filled up with ultra low sulfur diesel
in Moab and the next morning it was 42 and I could not get my car to
start. I had to have someone come from a serivice station and give me
a jump start and run a hair dryer under the hood for two hours warming
up the injection pump and lines.
I live in Easten California, and our fuel all comes from the L.A. basin
and is mixed for their conditions.
My motor has been well cared for, but is getting tired with 394,000
miles on it. But the starting problem got worse precipitously when the
ultra low sulfer diesel came along.
I hope to do an overhaul later this winter, but I would really like to
be able to get the car started for now as it runs great when it is
going. It has excellent power and does not smoke excessively.
Does anyone have any other ideas to try for corecting hard starting?
Thanks.
Paul Fretheim
paul@inyopro.com
robrjt - 13 Dec 2006 23:35 GMT
Greetings, I had a similar problem when I filled up with the new stuff
in my 300sd. I put two bottles of diesel fuel water remover and that
got it started, and then ran as usual.
> I have a 1982 300TDT (station wagon).
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T.G. Lambach - 14 Dec 2006 01:57 GMT
Glow it three times before cranking the engine.
Adjust the valves.
Richard Sexton - 14 Dec 2006 06:31 GMT
>Glow it three times before cranking the engine.
>
>Adjust the valves.
At one point my car was WAY off in terms of valve adjustment. But the glow
plugs have always been good and even in very cold weather it's been my
experience that with good plugs and bad valve timing the car will start.
But, with perfect valve timing and bad plugs starting is going to be,
um, "an issue".
Ideally of course you'd renew the glow plugs, adjust the valves,
run some diesle purge through it and rebuild the injector tips.
But of all those things glow plugs have the most significant impact
on starting by a LARGE margin.

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heav - 14 Dec 2006 15:48 GMT
Thanks for the advice.
I will try some water purge additive, but I am pretty sure the fuel is
coming through pure as I have changed filters and cracked a line and
inspected the fuel and it looked and smelled normal.
I should have mentioned that I always adjust my valves at 15,000 mile
intervals. They were last adjusted at 384,000 and now the car has
394,000, so they were adjusted 10,000 miles back.
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heav - 14 Dec 2006 15:56 GMT
I should also mention that I installed rebuilt Bosch injectors at
377,000 miles. I noticed a big increase in power and smoothness of
operation, but also increased blow by when the engine started firing at
the correct moment. The motor also began to run slightly cooler, back
how it did when it was 200,000 miles newer. The tired springs in the
old injectors apparently caused the injectors to fire too soon.
The increased blow by tells me it is time for liners and pistons and
valves and seats, even though the engine runs like new as far as power
and smoothness is concerned.
I should have the new relay installed in the next couple of days and I
will post what effect that has on the starting issue.
Paul
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Tiger - 15 Dec 2006 16:08 GMT
I installed a new relay into my car... 95 E300D... and now sometime the glow
light doesn't even come on... What else can be changed?
szcz - 16 Dec 2006 21:25 GMT
Where did you get the relay that keeps the plugs hot for 3 minutes?
heav - 17 Dec 2006 15:14 GMT
http://replacement.autopartswarehouse.com/parts/autopartswarehouse/quote.jsp?yea
r=1982&product=F1101-60420&application=000483705&part=Preglow%20Time%20Relay&dp=
false
> Where did you get the relay that keeps the plugs hot for 3 minutes?
I ordered mine from autopartswarehouse.com
Paul
HANK - 20 Dec 2006 04:26 GMT
I had the same problem starting problems but was with a VW turbo
diesel.
Have used toulene (1/2 liter) in the gas tank and did the trick for
me. Toulene can be bought at any hardware store in the paint
department. It helps increase the combustability of the diesel in cold
weather.
You might also want to try automatic transmission fluid(1/2 liter) in
the gas tank to help clean and lubricate the injectors every 6 months.
Some might not agree with what i have done, but it worked for me. My
91
Jetta had over 375000 kms on the original factory engine
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heav - 22 Dec 2006 15:28 GMT
I spent about $350 US on the glow plug system without much improvement
in starting, and then discovered that when the car sat overnight, the
fuel was draining out of the in-line filter on the primer pump. This
turned out to be because the short section of fuel line (3.6 cm) that
connects the in-line filter to the pump had deteriorated and was not
sealing properly.
I replaced this bit of hose and now the car starts. It still has
compression issues (394,000 miles on it), so the starting is difficult
when cold and I have to use a block heater, but at least it gets going
now with about two minutes of cranking when it is below freezing.
Thanks to everyone who offered ideas.
I do think it runs smoother after starting with the new Bosch relay
that keeps the glow plugs on for three minutes after the car starts.
Paul
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