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1993 Merc 1.8 190e Overheating

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waldorf - 12 Jan 2007 09:31 GMT
I have had a problem with overheating.
My 1993 Merc 1.8 190e is overheating in traffic. It is fine on a run,
say on the motorway or uninterrupted driving.
As soon as I am caught in traffic the temperature shoots right up. On
inspection I have found that the fan is not coming on.
It is obviously turning (freewheeling) when on the motorway and keeping
the engine cool, but it isn't coming on in traffic, thus overheating.
What will this be??? Sensor...fan...thermostat...
Help!!
macdrone - 12 Jan 2007 13:34 GMT
> I have had a problem with overheating.
> My 1993 Merc 1.8 190e is overheating in traffic. It is fine on a run,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What will this be??? Sensor...fan...thermostat...
> Help!!

Waldorf
Well you hit the nail on the head, first off check your a/ because the
electric fan has 2 modes and runs the fans because its always cycling.
Then replace that thermostat if its actually overheating.  Remember the
fan is designed to come on at 110 degrees +/- 5 degrees while in
motion.  The fan will cycle on slow because of the low speed with the
a/c.  If you can see its overheating its not the sensor, you see it
therefore the car knows it.

Jason
frank133 - 14 Jan 2007 03:26 GMT
hi i would check the fan thermostat switch located between the  air
filter and rocker cover in cylinder head its two black push on plugs
if you bridge the two wires with the ignition on you should hear the
fan click in I  have put in a switch from them two wires to bring the
fan in early i think the temperature setting is a bit high before the
fan kicks in.hope this helps frank

> waldorf wrote:
> > I have had a problem with overheating.
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> Jason

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waldorf - 16 Jan 2007 20:48 GMT
> hi i would check the fan thermostat switch located between the  air
> filter and rocker cover in cylinder head its two black push on plugs
> if you bridge the two wires with the ignition on you should hear the
> fan click in I  have put in a switch from them two wires to bring the
> fan in early i think the temperature setting is a bit high before the
> fan kicks in.hope this helps frank,
Do you mean join the two wires together with a separate wire??
waldorf - 20 Jan 2007 08:39 GMT
> hi i would check the fan thermostat switch located between the  air
> filter and rocker cover in cylinder head its two black push on plugs
> if you bridge the two wires with the ignition on you should hear the
> fan click in I  have put in a switch from them two wires to bring the
> fan in early i think the temperature setting is a bit high before the
> fan kicks in.hope this helps frank,

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Frank you were spot on. I took off the two wires and bridged them and
BINGO!! On came the fan.
I had a play around with the sensor(cleaned it) and it seems to be
working fine now, although i'll change it in the near future.
Many Thanks Frank
Hey, this guy knows his stuff !
Cheers
Waldorf
Richard Sexton - 12 Jan 2007 15:27 GMT
>I have had a problem with overheating.
>My 1993 Merc 1.8 190e is overheating in traffic. It is fine on a run,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>What will this be??? Sensor...fan...thermostat...
>Help!!

If I had to guess I'd say water pump.

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Tiger - 12 Jan 2007 15:31 GMT
The fan is an electric one so it will freewheel. So first thing I would
check is the fuse in the fusebox. Take it out and inspect it... while you
are at it, replace it with a new one.

I don't think fuse is the cause so next thing to check is thermostat... when
you drive on highway, did it ever go below 80 degree? If no, then thermostat
is fine.

So the real reason is the thermoswitches that controls the two electric fans
you have. I believe there is three of them on your car... dealer will tell
you  how many you got... one is two prongs, possible one is three prong and
then there is one prong red (not black... which is for the temperature
gauge). Don't forget to get all new aluminum washers for these
thermoswitches.

Replace these parts when engine is cold... little if any coolant will spill
out so change them quickly. Do not change these when engine is hot or
otherwise, hot coolant will shoot out and possibly you ruin the aluminum
threads for these sensors.
waldorf - 16 Jan 2007 20:46 GMT
> The fan is an electric one so it will freewheel. So first thing I would
> check is the fuse in the fusebox. Take it out and inspect it... while you
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> otherwise, hot coolant will shoot out and possibly you ruin the aluminum
> threads for these sensors.

When you say "bridge the wires"  do you mean join them together with a
separate wire?
waldorf - 16 Jan 2007 20:46 GMT
> The fan is an electric one so it will freewheel. So first thing I would
> check is the fuse in the fusebox. Take it out and inspect it... while you
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> otherwise, hot coolant will shoot out and possibly you ruin the aluminum
> threads for these sensors.

When you say "bridge the wires"  do you mean join them together with a
separate wire?
waldorf - 16 Jan 2007 20:46 GMT
> The fan is an electric one so it will freewheel. So first thing I would
> check is the fuse in the fusebox. Take it out and inspect it... while you
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> otherwise, hot coolant will shoot out and possibly you ruin the aluminum
> threads for these sensors.

When you say "bridge the wires"  do you mean join them together with a
separate wire?
waldorf - 16 Jan 2007 20:46 GMT
> The fan is an electric one so it will freewheel. So first thing I would
> check is the fuse in the fusebox. Take it out and inspect it... while you
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> otherwise, hot coolant will shoot out and possibly you ruin the aluminum
> threads for these sensors.

When you say "bridge the wires"  do you mean join them together with a
separate wire?
frank133 - 17 Jan 2007 01:26 GMT
sorry mate yes the two wires that go to the temp sensor on the head
just connect them together with a piece of wire all you are doing is
making a circuit instead of the temprature switch if the fan clicks in
with the ignition on thats your problem hope this help

> Tiger wrote:
>
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> together with a
> separate wire?

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