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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2007

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1981 123 cruise problems

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Stupendous Man - 01 Feb 2007 02:12 GMT
Hi.
I picked up an 81 300TD wagon last weekend.
The first problem to be attacked is the cruise control. It works only after
driving for about an hour. I opened up the servo and cleaned the contacts,
everything looked ok there. I opened up the amplifier hoping I could find a
bad solder joint, like often in the climate control. No visable problems
there. Anyone know where I can find info for a more thorough testing of the
amplifier?

Odometer doesn't work (speedo does) , it's electronic. What usually goes
wrong there?

I also picked up a 79 300TD sedan for $200 from the same family, thinking it
would be good for parts, but few will fit except for major driveline parts.
It runs fine but has many other problems, I havent decide what do do with it
yet.

Thanks
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Tiger - 01 Feb 2007 04:55 GMT
http://www.odometergears.com/ is for your odometer repair. It is gears
broken... change them all... 3 of them. Very common problem.

Cruise control is tricky to find the cracked solder... you need magnifying
glass to see them. There is a place in Colorado who will test them for you
and repair them if needed. Mbcoupes.com under part supplier.
Stupendous Man - 01 Feb 2007 06:08 GMT
The gears are OK, turning the small spur by hand operates the odo. I cant
even see the wires for it's motor without dismantling the speedo.
I will look into the amplifier again and re-solder some of the larger
junctions, it can't hurt.
The 79 shows as a different part number, and uses a different actuator, so I
doubt it will swap to an 81
Thanks
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Karl - 01 Feb 2007 14:59 GMT
All 123 body speedometers are mechanical.

> The gears are OK, turning the small spur by hand operates the odo. I cant
> even see the wires for it's motor without dismantling the speedo.
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> doubt it will swap to an 81
> Thanks
Stupendous Man - 02 Feb 2007 05:32 GMT
> All 123 body speedometers are mechanical.

I don't think it's a rare prototype.
Got the cruise working toady, just blindly soldered all the larger
terminals.

Next, the heater. new aux pump and thermostat. blows warm on left side, cold
on right. Weird
Karl - 02 Feb 2007 05:39 GMT
Are your ACC pushbuttons horizontal and there are 5 of them?

If yes, replace your mono valve insert.

If you have a speedometer cable, you have a mechanical speedometer.

> > All 123 body speedometers are mechanical.
>
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> Next, the heater. new aux pump and thermostat. blows warm on left side, cold
> on right. Weird
Roland Franzius - 02 Feb 2007 14:58 GMT
Stupendous Man schrieb:

>> All 123 body speedometers are mechanical.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Next, the heater. new aux pump and thermostat. blows warm on left side, cold
> on right. Weird

Mercedes has two independent temperature control units for left and
right side.

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Karl - 02 Feb 2007 15:14 GMT
Not on a USA version ACC system.

I can only assume "Stupendous Man" is in the USA .....

> Stupendous Man schrieb:
>
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> Mercedes has two independent temperature control units for left and
> right side.
Stupendous Man - 04 Feb 2007 00:59 GMT
> Not on a USA version ACC system.

It's a USA model. My 20 year old Atari based Alldata system packed it in, so
i have no technical data available for testing. I found a CD on Ebay for $11
that may do the job.
Stupendous Man - 11 Feb 2007 18:34 GMT
My odometer gears arrived friday, that's fixed. Drove the panzer into San
Francisco yesterday, the 300 mile trip in heavy rain was long enough to get
mileage readings when I fill it up.
Still waiting for the manual on CD.
Thanks
 
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