My 1987 300E suddenly developed some sort of sporadic loose or poor
electrical connection somewhere.
A week ago the radio (Blaupunkt replacement) suddenly went dead, no
lights at all on radio panel. It then would come back on and the
antenna would re-raise. It happened briefly the first day, then went
dead for a longer period of time, then would suddenly come back on.
Examined the fusebox connections and replaced radio fuse with new red
one with no change.
Yesterday it went dead and I reached up to switch the sunroof up and
found it was dead too, although I could hear a light growling like the
motor was trying to do something. When the radio was playing, I used
the sunroof switch the radio went dead then came back on when I released
the sunroof switch.
Car starts fine and runs great. Headlights, turn signals, brake lights
work fine. Interior lights all bright and dashboard instruments work
fine.
Today it was raining and with the radio and sunroof dead, the windshield
wipers were also dead. The power windows were dead too although their
lights were on in the console. Several miles into my trip all came back
on. Radio blaring, windshield wiper came on, windows worked, sunroof
worked. Stopped car and hour later when I came out to drive home radio,
wipers, sunroof dead, but windows worked this time. I opened the
glovebox door and the light was dim orange so slight voltage is flowing.
I can push the display light on the radio and it lights up with time but
won't play radio or CD and goes back dead after a second or two.
Starting or stopping hard do not seem to trigger it. Seems to be just
not flowing full 12 volts to the radio, sunroof and wipers systems.
Got home, shut off car, then turned ignition back on and everything
working fine and glovebox light now bright.
Where do I start looking?!!
Pete Cowper
California
ws - 08 Feb 2007 09:16 GMT
Well, 2 things:
1. Do you have lots of keys hanging off your keychain? If so, 20 years
of jiggling can cause the ignition switch to be loose, and the 12V ACC
supply to be intermittent. Try it again, using the key seperately/
2. If you haven't changed the fuses, just change the whole lot. They may
look good, but the end-caps go high-resistance.
HTH,
ws
> My 1987 300E suddenly developed some sort of sporadic loose or poor
> electrical connection somewhere.
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> Pete Cowper
> California

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Tiger - 08 Feb 2007 14:47 GMT
Ditto on the fuse... change them all.
As for the ignition switch, that is possible too... to test this try turning
your key back a bit more without shutting engine off... does that help? If
yes, then your ignition switch is bad.
Richard Sexton - 08 Feb 2007 15:32 GMT
After you've changed ALL the fuses and cleaned the electrical contacts
in the fuxebox (where the fuses touch, with an eraser) then clean the
grounds. I've never worked on a 124 but there are probably two. One
from the engine block and a another one, uh, someplace.
Then remove and clean to within an inch of their lives the battery
terminals. Do the -'ve terminal first.
This alone may make the problem go away.
If not what's the last thing you added or changed that had
a wire atached to it?

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Pete Cowper - 13 Feb 2007 02:13 GMT
The problem went away on my drive from Visalia to Livermore last Friday
(184 miles) and did not return until about 50 miles from home when the
radio went dead (along with glove box light, sunroof, tear window
defogger, gas guage red light are things I am aware of being dead).
About 15 miles further at 65 mph everything came back on including red
light next to the needle resting close to empty which had not been on 15
miles earlier as I tried to stretch my tank to home.
Since the glovebox light was still glowing very dim orange, non-moving
sunroof still making low motor growl and the radio display button
brought the radio lights back on for a second or two before going back
out...I am thinking bad ground, not bad wire with a short.
Everything worked fine going to and from work today.
I have already replaced the radio fuse and cleaned all the other fuses
and contacts.
I appears to be just a few circuits. Gauges, HVAC, interior and
exterior lights all work fine.
Is there a common ground near the radio that feeds these accessories?
The multi-page spread out MB wiring diagram really does not show what
wiring is together in the car.
Pete Cowper
1987 300E
Tiger - 13 Feb 2007 17:52 GMT
I am thinking it is possible that your overload relay is bad.
Ground problem is a possibility at the battery or the battery cable... check
that.
Interior grounds are well protected inside the car so it is not likely to
get rusted.
Roland Franzius - 13 Feb 2007 18:13 GMT
Pete Cowper schrieb:
> The problem went away on my drive from Visalia to Livermore last Friday
> (184 miles) and did not return until about 50 miles from home when the
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> The multi-page spread out MB wiring diagram really does not show what
> wiring is together in the car.
Looks as if the 15R contact at the ignition key makes problems. Radio,
intervall wiper, glove box and ashtrey are connected via different fuses
to 15R supplying voltage after first turn of igniton key. There are more
than one different ground connections so I doubt its a common ground
problem.

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