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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2007

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1984 500 sel please help me on this one

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benz831@earthlink.net - 10 Feb 2007 22:22 GMT
Hi all, hate to be a pain about the car, but I been thinking,
maybe there is a simple reaon why the car is so starved for air that it is
blowing black smoke, and it is the same reason that the vacuum line coming
from the manifold
will choke out the car if it is covered.,
Maybe the cold start valve is fine, just that the car airway is somehow
blocked or stuck, so that the only air the manifold can get is thru that
vacuum connection.
A stuck Throttle valve ?
I am kinda afraid to drive the car now , as I don't want to damage anything
running it so rich on gas ...
Thanks ahead,
Jim
www.benzbay.com
Jens - 11 Feb 2007 16:07 GMT
Rich, yes.

But it could also be because it is getting too much gas.

It sounds like a stuck EHA  (Electrohydraulic Actuator - the small
rectangular unit on the back side of the fuel distributor).
benz831@earthlink.net - 11 Feb 2007 22:01 GMT
Well, I looked but couldn't find anything on the back of the fuel
distributor that looks like what you are describing.
The car has sat awhile, and I know the cruise was froze up so maybe there is
more than one thing rusted open or closed.
> Rich, yes.
>
> But it could also be because it is getting too much gas.
>
> It sounds like a stuck EHA  (Electrohydraulic Actuator - the small
> rectangular unit on the back side of the fuel distributor).
Paul McKechnie - 11 Feb 2007 23:15 GMT
The 84 500SEL doesn't use an EHA valve.  It uses a control pressure regular
(block with 2 fuel lines and an electrical connection located near front of
engine).  Fine tuning of fuel mixture is done with a frequency valve located
on left side of the fuel distributor.  It looks like an injector but has
fuel lines on both ends.
First, remove the two screws holding the cold start valve to the engine.
Carefully pull it up (keep the fuel line hooked up.) and place it in a small
container to catch any fuel that comes out.  Have someone start the engine
while you watch for fuel comming out.  There may be a spray while the
starter is enguaged but none after the engine starts.  If it leaks you have
found your problem.
If that wasn't it, remove the air cleaner assembly and make sure the mass
air flow plate (thats what I call it) is completly closed.  If it is
partially open, that will be your problem.
If the above fail to show the problem then you will have to check the
control pressure.  This takes a special fuel pressure guage.  This is not
the system pressure but fuel pressure used to control the fuel distributor.
I have seen quite a few control pressure regulators go bad and cause the
problem you have.
By the way, I have an 84 500SEL and I am speaking from experience.
Paul
> Well, I looked but couldn't find anything on the back of the fuel
> distributor that looks like what you are describing.
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>> It sounds like a stuck EHA  (Electrohydraulic Actuator - the small
>> rectangular unit on the back side of the fuel distributor).
 
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