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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / April 2007

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560SEL timing chain

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robrjt - 05 Apr 2007 17:42 GMT
Hi,
my 118k 91 560SEL is in need of the new chain.  Any good info out
there?  And whats the fav vendor of the group to buy from?

Years ago I help change a 380sl to a double row unit.  A clip was used
to hold the chain together, no it requires a tool.  I will look for a
rental at NAPA or so.

Bought this car on ebay and found it will be a bit of a project.
Thanks for any info!
Rob
Tiger - 05 Apr 2007 22:43 GMT
autohausaz.com

That is the place I now buy alot of parts from. Tool rental  for the factory
one is at http://www.performanceproducts.com/
Scott Buchanan - 06 Apr 2007 04:41 GMT
Can the 102.981 engine from a 190 E be changed to a double row chain?

> Hi,
> my 118k 91 560SEL is in need of the new chain.  Any good info out
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> Thanks for any info!
> Rob
Tiger - 06 Apr 2007 16:05 GMT
It is probably cheaper to put newer used engine into the car than to try
conversion if there is any. 4 Cylinders don't have as much torque as the V8
so no need for double. Just change them as a regular maintenance and it will
last.
Scott Buchanan - 07 Apr 2007 07:22 GMT
Actually, I am replacing the engine due to a thrown rod. Never thought of
using a newer engine. The 230 CE is a w123 with a 102.980 engine. What
engine would you recommend?

Thanks

> It is probably cheaper to put newer used engine into the car than to try
> conversion if there is any. 4 Cylinders don't have as much torque as the V8
> so no need for double. Just change them as a regular maintenance and it will
> last.
Tiger - 07 Apr 2007 21:23 GMT
Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this is
so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85 to
93 2.3L engine.
Scott Buchanan - 07 Apr 2007 23:17 GMT
I got the number on the block. The following websites say the same thing.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/6633/w123models.html

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=7381&Mercedes-Benz

> Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
> engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this is
> so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85 to
> 93 2.3L engine.
Tiger - 08 Apr 2007 00:24 GMT
Then by all mean use any of the 2.3 engine. I'd go for the later model
instead... unless you want to try to put in a 2.3 16 valves engine for more
performance.
Scott Buchanan - 08 Apr 2007 01:20 GMT
Is this the Cosworth engine?

> Then by all mean use any of the 2.3 engine. I'd go for the later model
> instead... unless you want to try to put in a 2.3 16 valves engine for more
> performance.
Tiger - 08 Apr 2007 03:36 GMT
Yep, that was the Cosworth engine. Not easy to come by... and probably not
cheap either... unless you are really lucky to find a dismantler who simply
don't care about price.
tyke - 08 Apr 2007 22:40 GMT
> Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
> engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this is
> so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85 to
> 93 2.3L engine.

102.980 is the correct engine for a 230ce / 123

the 230c carburettor engine uses the 115.9xx
 
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